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Maine voters repeal gay-marriage law

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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 10:36 AM
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the only type of sexual relationship that does affect everyone which is that between one man and one woman, ...


Just exactly how does a man and a woman having sex "affect everyone"? I cannot recall ever having been affected by the sex had by the thousands of people in my town over the years. Geez, was I sleeping too hard or what? What did I miss by them having sex -- without me even knowing they did it?




posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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I have no problem with prostitution as long as the woman is of age of consent - and working freely by her own choice.

I personally support legalizing it and mandatory health checks.

Funny - - most men don't think twice about taking a woman to dinner - - then having sex with her later. Some actually expect it.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
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Because they are in it illegally and are controlled by pimps, who take most of their earnings, and beat them into submission. Or are as a result of sex trafficking, and are slaves.

Make it a legal living and they can work for themselves, under their own conditions, and they can get regular healthcare from the government.


Really I am starting to wonder about some peoples sanity on here. I thought liberals had compassion. Why would anyone defend prostitution, legal or illegal?

Do you think little girls go to bed dreaming of one day how they can grow up to be a prostitute and have sex with men that they not only don't like, but many of whom are disgusting? God, I hope not.

They can already get regular healthcare now. All they would have to do is take some of their cash and use it to buy health insurance. So making it legal isn't really much benefit to them.

I am just amazed that people think it is ok to let a woman be used for sex by thousands of men as a career choice. So if a woman wants t make a living by letting people pay her $20 for a punch to her face, should we condone that too?


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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Matt_Mason
No one is saying gays can't marry, they just can't marry the same sex just like I can't.


They used this same logic to defend the illegality of interracial marriage.

Eventually the illegality of same sex marriage will be remembered in a similar light...



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
I thought liberals had compassion. Why would anyone defend prostitution, legal or illegal?



"LIBERALS" - - - the catch all bucket for everything conservatives don't agree with.

Conservatives are the single thought group - - stuck in a controlled idealistic world.

Liberals are the "color outside the lines - independent - progressive thinkers". You can not lump them into "group think" - - any more then you can lump gays into "group think". They are as varied as all the colors in the spectrum.

How did we get off onto Prostitution and Liberals?

There is no single reason Prostitution can not be an Honorable and Legal business. Interesting that again MEN and Religious groups want to interfere with a Woman's Right To Choose.

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Gay Marriage Loss in Maine Is a Straight Loser - Michael B. Laskoff - 11-4-09

A year ago, it was Prop 8 that sullied my joy at the official end of the Bush era. One year later, this once proud son of the State of Maine is appalled. 52.7% of the voting electorate there voted yes to the question, "Do you want to reject the new law that lets same-sex couples marry and allows individuals and religious groups to refuse to perform these marriages?" In this denial of rights, some will see a brave defense of traditional values. I see the hideous specter of legally sanctioned discrimination.

Being gay is like being black, white or Latino. It's genetic, not a matter of choice; and it's recurrent in the population -- generation after generation, throughout human history. (If you don't believe me, read the Iliad.) There's also pretty good scientific evidence -- empirical, not moral -- to prove that being gay is one of the normal expressions of human sexuality, along with heterosexuality. The latter is more prevalent, but both are normal. To deny normal, law-abiding people their civil rights is no better than racism. It's that simple.


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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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How did we get off onto Prostitution and Liberals?

There is no single reason Prostitution can not be an Honorable and Legal business. Interesting that again MEN and Religious groups want to interfere with a Woman's Right To Choose.



I was replying to your post about prostitution. LOL.

Prostitution may be legal someday but it will never be honorable.

But I guess I will throw you a bone and say that if women really want the right to choose to become hookers and let men use them as a piece of meat in return for a little pocket change, then I guess I won't stand against the right to choose.. to be a peice of meat.

As far as gay marriage goes, if you look back in history gays never had a right to marry even in Rome where they couldn't get enough gay action going on. Obviously, every powerful society on earth has differentiated marriage to be meant for a man and a woman, until the world went mad.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce

I was replying to your post about prostitution. LOL.

Prostitution may be legal someday but it will never be honorable.

But I guess I will throw you a bone and say that if women really want the right to choose to become hookers and let men use them as a piece of meat in return for a little pocket change, . . .


Try reality. Of course it can and has been an Honorable profession.

Pocket change??? Sure - there are $5 - $10 hookers. Interesting that you only look at the low street end. What does that say about you? There are also thousand dollar hookers. There is a lot of money in prostitution.

Piece of meat??? You can choose what ever way you want to look at it - - - as far as I'm concerned - - you are a client who is paying for a service.

I always find it interesting that in most discussions about women - - - it is the men who are the most negative. They still seem to want to put women on some Pristine Pedestal.

No thanks.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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Yeah most women like to be put on a pedestal and would prefer to be able to eat without having to service a man to earn her food money. Trust me there are way more healthy and honorabe ways to make a living.

It will never be honorable. A hoe is a hoe. Some might get paid more but they are still nothing but hoes. Plus, a few thousand bucks is still pocket change to a lot of men. Do you think a man is really going to spend money he don't have just to have a piece of something that has been used and filthed up with the thousands of men who came (not in the sexual sense) before him?

How is it honorable to sell your body for money? That is just sad that any woman have to or choose to do that.

It is bad enough when you have been with a woman and then learn she had 20 or 30 partners before you, but it is even worse when you go in knowing she had 20 or 30 yesterday. Yuk!

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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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Yeah most women like to be put on a pedestal and would prefer to be able to eat without having to service a man to earn her food money. Trust me there are way more healthy and honorabe ways to make a living.


Are you a woman?

I am.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Yeah that is shocking that you are a woman and I am one of those evil conservative men and yet I care more about protecting women from a life of use and abuse than you do.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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Yeah that is shocking that you are a woman and I am one of those evil conservative men and yet I care more about protecting women from a life of use and abuse than you do.


You are controlling women. You are really no different then the pimps.

You are not giving them freedom to make their own choice.

Staying on a pedestal is hard work. No thanks - I'll take my lumps and bruises in life - by making my own choices.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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LOL, freedom to chose to be used and abused. That is one hell of a great freedom. I quess next parents should give their kids freedom to play in the middle of a busy street during rush hour. Wake up evil parents.

But I do see your point. Maybe if they were willing to do a little hard work they wouldn't have had to become a prostitute to begin with. Where else can you earn good money laying on your back all day? Is that how you see it as a good career choice for women?

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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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Yeah that is shocking that you are a woman and I am one of those evil conservative men and yet I care more about protecting women from a life of use and abuse than you do.


She has a point. Women should have the right to do what they want to do without a man standing over them telling them what they can and can't do.

And you cannot deny that conditions would be better if it was legalized, it would be regulated and everything. While it's illegal you have the problem of stds, pimps, and street crime. I see more benefit out of it be legalized than I do for it being illegal.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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LOL, freedom to chose to be used and abused. That is one hell of a great freedom. I quess next parents should give their kids freedom to play in the middle of a busy street during rush hour. Wake up evil parents.

But I do see your point. Maybe if they were willing to do a little hard work they wouldn't have had to become a prostitute to begin with. Where else can you earn good money laying on your back all day? Is that how you see it as a good career choice for women?

[edit on 7-11-2009 by HotSauce]


Have you ever watched porn or looked at a porn magazine. If you have then you are just as guilty. Prostitution is a little like porn, your just paid to have sex on camera is the only difference. So if you've done any of the above you have used the models for your own good and have supported there lifestyle. And don't tell me you haven't, every man on earth has doen this atleast once.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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It is illegal because it is both immoral and unhealthy for the women and the men. Sure you might make it a little healthier by making it legal, but yu know there is always that guy that will force her to take while he is not wearing a condom. Truth is legal or illegal it is not healthy. Condoms tear.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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Are you homophiles kidding us???

YOU ARE THE ONES FORCING THIS ISSUE ON THE REST OF US.

YOU ARE SO SELFISH YOU FEEL THE NEED TO "MARRY" A CLONE OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TOLERATE THE OPPOSITE SEX. YOU ARE THE HEIGHT OF NARCISSISM AND YOUR IDIOTIC ATTEMPT TO FAKE A NORMAL MARRIAGE IS EITHER A BIG JOKE OR A DEMENTED ATTEMPT TO EXTORT EXTERNAL LEGITIMIZATION/VALIDATION OF A LIFE YOU KNOW TO BE INTRINSICALLY DISORDERED.

SPARE ME YOU CROCODILE TEARS, YOUR PHONY CRIES OF "EQUALITY" AND THE DISGUSTING NATURE OF YOUR DEATH-LOVING ACTS.

GO AWAY. YOU WILL ALL SOON BE DEAD ANYWAY BECAUSE HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN EVOLUTIONARY DEAD-END. IN A WAY YOU DO US A FAVOR BY CLEANSING THE GENE POOL OF DEFECTIVE DNA.

THERE: NOT A SINGLE RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT.

DARWIN RULES AND SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST IS THE RULE OF NATURE. YOU ARE DEAD-ENDS. PERIOD.

NOW GO FIND A CIRCLE JERK AND LEAVE US ALONE.

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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 09:35 PM
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Well yes I have viewed these things from time to time and I agree that it is wrong and hypocritical of me. I feel a great degree of gult about my failure to always treat women with the respect they deserve. I just hope that my daughter never has to do any of that in her lifetime except with people she actually has feelings for.

Still I believe that even though I have failed it still does not make it acceptable and it is horrendous.

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posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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It is illegal because it is both immoral and unhealthy for the women and the men. Sure you might make it a little healthier by making it legal, but yu know there is always that guy that will force her to take while he is not wearing a condom. Truth is legal or illegal it is not healthy. Condoms tear.


I hate when people try to throw Morality in my face. I swear it is the most abused and overused word - - at least since the conservative right "took office"

What are you? The morality police - - dictating to me? Do you run around with a stick and hit women that show too much skin or don't wear socks?

As far as Abuse goes - that is a separate issue then Freedom of Choice.

Abuse? How about Walmart's discrimination against women's pay and management advances. Now that is real abuse in a legal workplace. I bet they have accidents in the workplace too.

Respect? Do I need to respect a man - just because he is a man?



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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Well it doesn't make much sense and is a a poor use of time to throw morality into the face of those with no sense of what morality is or any sense of why it has value in a free society.



posted on Nov, 7 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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I have no problem with gay marriage.
At a state or constitutional level, there should not be a mandate against it.

However, anyone who belongs to a religion that does not endorse gay marriage should not expect to be able to have a marriage recognized within that religion.

Now, since the USA is predominantly Christian, and Christianity's official stance on homosexuals is against it, it's not surprising that it was overturned.

I am a bit surprised, at the support of the majority rule over minority.



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