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Virgin birth.A human parthenogenetic chimaera




Topic started on 3-11-2009 @ 05:28 PM by TheAmused


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According to a 1995 report in the journal Nature Genetics, a mother brought her infant boy to the doctor after noticing that his head was developing abnormally. When doctors analyzed his blood, they found something truly bizarre: Despite his anatomically male features, the boy's blood cells were entirely female, consisting only of genetic material from his mother. Some of his other cells—such as those found in his urine—were normal, consisting of a combination of both maternal and paternal DNA. No one knows exactly how this occurred, but the best guess is that immediately after being fertilized, one of his mother's eggs fused with a neighboring unfertilized egg that was dividing parthogenetically. This gave rise to a boy who was considered half-parthenogenetic, since approximately half of his cells were derived from a "faux" conception, containing no remnants of his father's DNA.



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n mice, parthenogenetic embryos die at the early postimplantation stage as a result of developmental requirements for paternally imprinted genes, particularly for formation of extraembryonic tissues. Chimaeric parthenogeneticharrnormal mice are viable, however, due to non−random differences in distribution of their two cell types. Species differences in imprinting patterns in embryo and extra−embryonic tissues mean that there are uncertainties in extrapolating these experimental studies to humans. Here, however, we demonstrate that parthenogenetic chimaerism can indeed result in viable human offspring, and suggest possible mechanisms of origin for this presumably rare event.


So it is possible jesus was a virgin birth.
hope this help's some folk's.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:18 PM by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest


just curious...who was this intended to help?


at any rate it makes the "miracle" of the virgin birth of jesus less of a miracle.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:17 AM by Happyfeet


I dont understand, the egg was still fertilized correct?



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 08:38 AM by TheAmused


Originally posted by Happyfeet
I dont understand, the egg was still fertilized correct?



yes in a way
it says ...containing no remnants of his father's DNA.
So he is the first line of male dna in his history in a way..

Ok imagine if we had dna from ADAM OR EVE.

this boy would be fairly close to explaining how we came to be in existence.

He is the first line on the DNA chain..he has a kid later on..it will have his dad's dna and his only...

Unlike normal people..we have trait's ect habit's mannerisms of people long dead..cause it is hard coded in our dna.

But he has no male dna from his father fertilizing the egg.
So in a way he is ADAM.
kinda weird if u think about it.



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reply posted on 14-11-2009 @ 08:34 AM by krax


Hang on... so is this child without mental problems or psychical deformities (apart from the head).
Also didn't the egg fertilize, then another egg sort of fused. So it isn't really a Virgin birth?



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reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 10:06 PM by The Matrix Traveller


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According to some ancient writings, it is recorded that we have crossed with Alien Hermaphrodites.

From that time on, the Alien we crossed with, also started to copulated in producing their offspring, that is according to the writings.

The one who committed Adultery with Eve was reported to have been a hermaphrodite, so perhaps this might be a throw back.

Reference found in “The Books of E’Noch”…

This could be one reason???

But this has nothing to do with the Christian Parables that the Roman bible consists of, Humanised by the Romans, which has also been adopted today in many other denominations and sects, interpreting the writings in a human way, after the writings being bastardised by the Pharisees, Scribes and the Roman church.

Often the Carpenter is confused with being J.C. but the Carpenter was the honoured messenger. That is J.C. spoke through, “The Carpenter”.

Evidence of this is found in "The Gospel According to Luke" Ch. 24 Verse 13 to 35.
In the Fact that his disciples did Not recognise the Carpenter that they were walking with on the road to Emmaus.

Humans looked for a human messiah but failed to understand what Jesus was talking about.

And the Romans totally bastardised the true story which was about the "Soul" called MAN and Not the descendants of A’Dam.

Hence the name given as "The Son of Man" and Not "The Son of A'dam".

MAN is the Soul and Not the "flesh".

A'Dam is the Flesh and Not the "Soul".


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reply posted on 16-11-2009 @ 05:56 AM by Astyanax


This is all fine and dandy, but there is a simpler explanation.

Mary got knocked up by the village love machine, couldn't bring herself to admit as much to her folks and have herself gated for the duration, so she pinned it on God instead.

Greek village girls had been doing it for centuries, millennia probably. And the culture of the Roman Middle East was essentially Greek, so it wasn't what you might call an original excuse. Mary probably wasn't even the first monotheist to use it--just the first one to make it stick. And how.

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