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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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Asda till snub help for heros


www.thesun.co.uk

MUM-of-three Beth Hoyle claims an Asda till worker refused to serve her because she was wearing a wristband backing injured troops.

Beth says the checkout lad told her the band for Help for Heroes - aided by The Sun - meant she supported the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And when she complained to a supervisor, he BACKED the Asian youth, saying he was entitled to his view.

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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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This is a story from my home town. I think its absolutly disgraceful. Asda work for wall-mart, which in turn support the war. If this person felt so strongly. then they wouldnt be working for the company in the first place. I know that because of this, theres huge upraoar in my town



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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by superdebz


This is a story from my home town. I think its absolutly disgraceful. Asda work for wall-mart, which in turn support the war. If this person felt so strongly. then they wouldnt be working for the company in the first place. I know that because of this, theres huge upraoar in my town



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The UK has become PATHETIC recently in this nonsense about hero troops.

I;m sick of having it rammed down my throat.

The lad was entitled to his point of view. Good for him for not being bullied by emotional blackmail.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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I thought shop staff were paid to serve customers end of.
So if someone wants serving, and he's wearing a tory badge, and this staff member supports labour, would he refuse to serve him ?
ASDA should sack this clown, but won't and we all know why.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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When you take a job you do that job to the best of your abilities.

He has every right to tell her he does not agree that 'she supports the war', but he is not doing his job if he doesn't serve her. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who would love a job right now...


If I was a postman, I would be expected to deliver the mail to every house. But say I am against testing cosmetics on animals, and I know the occupant of a house works in a company that does this....I should still deliver his mail right?



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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Exactly. A shop assistants political views should have no bearing on him doing his job, same as anyone else. What next, black Police refusing to investigate an assault on a BNP member? Or maybe being refused service because you have bacon in your shopping?

I know that if refused to do my job based upon Political views, then I would be sacked.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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I for one applaud this guy. How do we not know his family (or members) werent killed by the military overseas in Iraq/Afghanistan? would you serve someone who supports the very same people who did that to one of your loved ones?

Not to mention we already give stupid amounts of money to veterans in the UK already year-round, not to mention the "wear your poppy" social conformitory thats forced in our faces every November.
The Governments reminder to keep lining up their pockets with money to support the "war on terror" otherwise the big bad wolf from the Middle East will blow us all up again.

Were practically in Europe now anyway, we'll lose the Pound in the next 5 years (if not sooner), so as soon as the last WW2 veterans have gone they'll be looking for the next monetary making scheme to exploit.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:50 PM
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Checkout clerks are paid to do a job. They are not paid to give their opinion.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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I don't know about anyone else, but I put money in the Poppy tin to remember the men and Women who fought and died so that I can be here, and my Family can be here, and out of respect.

Not because some Politician tells me too, how do we know the lady does not have a son who is hiding behind a small hill being shot at? same difference.

Take it out on the politicians, not the troops, most of them do not want to be there.

What a damn state of affairs when we have to take one side over the other because a few pence, the Poppy is for all who have fought for Britain not just this War, have some damn respect, whats the matter? they have done their job now, so we can forget them? or do you have another reason?

As for this ASDA checkout guy, he should do his job and leave the Politics outside, plenty of others who need a job, but again saying that, it's the sun newspaper, so what really happened?

This is the third time I have read similar accounts, this one, a pub that refused the Poppy's ( their choice) and I am sure there was another one.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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I wear one of those bands and I know for a fact that had it been me being refused to be served I would have ended up being arrested this country never ceases to amaze me unbeliveable.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by azzllin
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I don't know about anyone else, but I put money in the Poppy tin to remember the men and Women who fought and died so that I can be here, and my Family can be here, and out of respect.

Not because some Politician tells me too, how do we know the lady does not have a son who is hiding behind a small hill being shot at? same difference.

Take it out on the politicians, not the troops, most of them do not want to be there.

What a damn state of affairs when we have to take one side over the other because a few pence, the Poppy is for all who have fought for Britain not just this War, have some damn respect, whats the matter? they have done their job now, so we can forget them? or do you have another reason?

As for this ASDA checkout guy, he should do his job and leave the Politics outside, plenty of others who need a job, but again saying that, it's the sun newspaper, so what really happened?

This is the third time I have read similar accounts, this one, a pub that refused the Poppy's ( their choice) and I am sure there was another one.



She should also keep her politics out of it. Nobody asked her to advertise her views.

As for the soldiers, my sympathies lie with those who joined before 2003 but most of them could have left by now if they didn't support their activity since then.

I don't support the view which is being forced down our throats that they are "protecting our country". That is NOT what the current mission is about.

They're being bogged down as were the Soviets.

They ARE NOT engaged in tribal areas of Pakistan due to geo-politics (i.e. the US keeping the Pakistan government on side). If their mission is to eliminate the "terrorists" then they will never succeed in this configuration. If their mission is to rid the country of the taliban, that is regime change and must come from within not be imposed by us.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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Let me guess..the checkout operator was Muslim?

Are we becoming so apologetic in this country that we continually kowtow to every minority for fear of offending?

Someone in ASDA needs to grow a set of balls. Some checkout staff refuse to put your alcohol and pork products through...now this is going too far.

If a "christian" had objected to serving someone wearing a gay rights support bracelet, they would have been told to shut up and bite it off.









posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:48 PM
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I agree.
Everyone is entitled to the opinion, but when you’re being paid to do a job, you do the job regardless of what opinion the customer has.
Secondly, If Cheney and Iraq taught us anything,

You can support the troops without supporting the war.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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You're kind of missing the point about poppies, but then again what with the complete lack of any meaningful history being taught in Schools these days it's hardly surprising.

And this women, according to the article, has family members serving out there. Whether you agree with the war/s or not, you can't blame the troops for it.

Many of them joined due to a lack of opportunity elsewhere, better be in the Army and learn a trade than loiter on the street corners, isn't it?

Ask any young squaddie and this will be his answer to why he joined. Yeah, some will probably state they always wanted to, but alot will have joined as it is an appealing career choice to those who may not have done well at school.

Either way, it's politics and that should not come into play when you're doing your shopping. You can bet that if she brought politics into it and refused to be served by a Muslim man because of their treatment of women, she would have been vilified as a racist, even though it is an equally valid a political point as this young mans about the War's.

Neither should have any relevance when buying your spuds.

reply to post by phoenix103
 


She is entitled to wear what she pleases and to act as she pleases without fear of discrimination. wearing a wrist band because she supports family members being sent overseas is hardly "shoving" it in anyones faces, but then we all know where your loyalties lie Phoenix.

As for you're statement about people should leave to get your sympathy, why the hell should they? For many, it's their life. They're in to get qualified, learn a trade, get a pension, same as anyone else in any other walk of life.

You're also missing the point about the Help for Heroes charity. It isn't in any way showing support for the war, it is a response to the dismal lack of care giving to many injured fighting these goddamn wars foistered upon us by the Labour traitors. It is about providing injured young men and women an extra helping hand when they need one so badly, not about supporting the war at all, but then, I'm not surprised you completely missed that.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Sad thing is the army is the only work choice for many people out there,and even more so in our current climate.I dont support the war and to be honest I wouldnt wear any bands for them.

I do respect them,but I dont admire them in the slightest or class them as heros.They have a hard and underpaid job to do,for the hours they put in its frankly disgusting that police men get more

I realy dont know why on earth they join up now.It used to be a good choice prior to Bush and Blair clutching their oil soaked bibles to their chests.Join the army and see the world,get super fit and tough it out from time to time with a tour in nothern ireland-now look at it!

A mate at works cousin has done two tours of Afganistan,his parents dont want him there and have told him.

He would be better off joining the police force,better pay and housing but no world tours!



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by chillpill
Let me guess..the checkout operator was Muslim?
If a "christian" had objected to serving someone wearing a gay rights support bracelet, they would have been told to shut up and bite it off.


May have been, but since we don't know, you're merely punching out a straw man made up of your own prejudice.

The best line so far..."Checkout clerks are paid to do a job. They are not paid to give their opinion. ".



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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...he should be entitled to his view.

What does the fact that she is a mother of 3 have to do with this story?

And finally - if she doesn't like his point of view, she can take her business else where.

It should be a law in every country on this planet

If someone offends you - shut you damn mouth and keep on walking. We don't care.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Snarf
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If someone offends you - shut you damn mouth and keep on walking. We don't care.



How ironic that you say that in support of the Asian lads views over the views of another person. So only one set of views is acceptable to shove in someones face than, I take it?



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Not at all, this isn't an infinite void or ideological quagmire of a statement

If you're offended - keep on walking


Im not offended that she was offended

I just find it pathetic that she was offended over something that effects her in no way.

If everyone would shut up when someone else farts the wrong color, the world would be a better place.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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And how exactly was she advertising her views, what just ovr wearing some wrist band. What next refuse to serve someone over wearing a cross, a burka, a wrong colour of coat, do you see how ridiculous this is?

Oh off course they would have to back up the till assistant, they do not want thier company taken to court for discrimination



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