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'V' aims at Obamamania


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Topic started on 3-11-2009 @ 02:37 PM by ProfEmeritus

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magine this. At a time of political turmoil, a charismatic, telegenic new leader arrives virtually out of nowhere. He offers a message of hope and reconciliation based on compromise and promises to marshal technology for a better future that will include universal health care.

The news media swoons in admiration -- one simpering anchorman even shouts at a reporter who asks a tough question: "Why don't you show some respect?!" The public is likewise smitten, except for a few nut cases who circulate batty rumors on the Internet about the leader's origins and intentions. The leader, undismayed, offers assurances that are soothing, if also just a tiny bit condescending: "Embracing change is never easy."

So, does that sound like anyone you know? Oh, wait -- did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who's come here to eat us?

Welcome to ABC's "V," the most fascinating and bound to be the most controversial new show of the fall television season. Nominally a rousing sci-fi space opera about alien invaders bent on the conquest (and digestion) of all humanity, it's also a barbed commentary on Obamamania that will infuriate the president's supporters and delight his detractors.

"We're all so quick to jump on the bandwagon," observes one character. "A ride on the bandwagon, it sounds like fun. But before we get on, let us at least make sure it is sturdy."

The bandwagon in this case is conspicuously saucer-shaped. "V" starts with the arrival of a couple of dozen ships from outer space, piloted by creatures who look like humans except a lot prettier. "Don't be frightened," says their luminously beautiful leader Anna (Morena Baccarin, "Serenity"). "We mean no harm."

The aliens -- who become known as V's, for visitors -- quickly enthrall their wide-eyed human hosts.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 02:38 PM by ProfEmeritus


I thought members might get a kick out of this analysis of "V", with its comparison to the way people seemed to accept Obama.
Let the food fight begin.....



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 02:41 PM by TheWalkingFox


The plot to the V remake is identical to the original V.

The original V came out in 1983, and was serialized in 1984, with a "movie sequel" the same year.

Unless the author wants to claim that it was originally taking swings at Reagan - with the exact same claims - I can happily dismiss him as a goober.

On edit... Morena Baccarin.... *Homer drool*

[edit on 3-11-2009 by TheWalkingFox]



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 02:45 PM by jjkenobi


It obviously wasn't the creator's initial intent but the similarities that exist now as pointed out in the article are spot on.

I can't wait to watch it, enjoyed the original a lot.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 02:48 PM by ProfEmeritus


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Unless the author wants to claim that it was originally taking swings at Reagan - with the exact same claims - I can happily dismiss him as a goober.


Then perhaps Obama took his lessons from the original "V". Now we know who ran his campaign.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 02:49 PM by jtma508


I'm calling goober as well. This is (yet another) remake of an old program. It seems like everything that comes up these days has some, usually sinister, connection to Obama. Give us a break for the love of Obama.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 03:11 PM by ProfEmeritus


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I'm calling goober as well. This is (yet another) remake of an old program. It seems like everything that comes up these days has some, usually sinister, connection to Obama. Give us a break for the love of Obama.


Gee, replace the word "Obama" with "George Bush", and we could say the same thing about all the comments from 2001 thru 2008. Geeze, George W. Bush was the anti-Christ, he was responsible for 9/11, he's a reptillian, you-name-it, he was called it.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 03:51 PM by redoubt


The bandwagon advice seems (to me, anyway) to be a good bit of advice regardless of when it is aimed or to whom. We definitely all do enjoy following any old parade through town.

As for the relation to Obama worship? I'll have to reserve my comments until after I've seen some of the flick... but this could end up being a lively topic as time goes on.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:28 PM by ProfEmeritus


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As for the relation to Obama worship? I'll have to reserve my comments until after I've seen some of the flick... but this could end up being a lively topic as time goes on.


I agree. Although the plot may be similar, we all know that the devil is in the details.
The dialogue will tell us quite a bit, especially if catch phrases are used.
I wonder how many times the aliens will promise "hope and change"?



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:48 PM by PsykoOps


Of course they use modern catch phrases. They weren't able to use them back in the 80'a because they didn't exist then



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:48 PM by SaturnFX


As pointed out, this was under the Reagen administration. Funny how this topic comes up here and I was talking to a friend earlier about the premise about V earlier today and how it probably was originally an attack at Reagen (considering he was literally a lived celebrity when he took office, Reagenmania and whatnot).

In consideration, this could really be put on any administration of any government type ever.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:03 PM by PsykoOps


Originally the V story was about french resistance and nazi occupation. Hence the imagenary that resembles nazis alot on the aliens. Let's see if the new ones look like terrorist or something



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:09 PM by SaturnFX


Originally posted by PsykoOps
Originally the V story was about french resistance and nazi occupation. Hence the imagenary that resembles nazis alot on the aliens. Let's see if the new ones look like terrorist or something



I think its generally about occupation anyhow..anyone coming over saying they come in peace while completely nerfing everything.

Administrations, wars, etc etc etc...perhaps the most common theme in our society.

Personally, I am not overly interested in this series...but will probably watch it for lack of anything much more entertaining on.

I wasnt a fan of the original when it came on, extremely hokey acting/effects/plot but meh...typical cowboys and indians played out series.

I miss Stargate SG1!



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:10 PM by SharkBait


V Is on right now 7central/8 Eastern -so far so good.! Ya'll watching. Remeber normally movies are made from info that is true



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:11 PM by PsykoOps


That's just not true. Probably vast majority of movies are made of complete fiction. They of course have influences from reality, creating a completely new world and reality isn't that easy



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:28 PM by endisnighe


They call it spreading HOPE. First catch phrase.

Go Obama I mean Go V!



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:31 PM by cbianchi513


SERIOUSLY???

ABC is one of the most pro-Obama media outlets there is! Need I remind you that ABC is owned by Disney?

NWO conditioning, anyone?

Buncha Obamatuers.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:34 PM by shrike071


The program has been in pre-production and production for almost 2 years. It actually started shooting over a year ago - well before anyone knew who would win the election. Then it went on hiatus for a while - they shuffled producers and writers and endured some strike issues

To say that the program is any reflection on Obama is like looking for faces in the clouds - you'll see them if you're inclined to, but reality is far different.


[edit on 3-11-2009 by shrike071]



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:21 PM by ProfEmeritus


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That's just not true. Probably vast majority of movies are made of complete fiction.


I guess you haven't watched too many episodes of Law and Order, then.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:33 PM by superluminal11


I thought the interview between Anna and the news reporter was interesting when they both mentioned something about universal healthcare and installing wellness centers everywhere. Can't imagine why they would do such a thing around the time of this healthcare legislation hoopla in DC.

There was a black reptilian dude that was a defector to the "V"isitors.
(oh wait..Obama is black as well) maybe not all reptilians are bad if they exist or maybe Obama might not be all that bad.
See how it works?

Be surprised how much psyops is involved in entertainment from the cartoons, tv shows, commercials, to the big screen. Put in flicker rates binaural beats and carrier waves and you have yourself a nice silent weapon.
I feel real bad for the adults and kids that got a big dose of the Movie "9" Not good



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