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Germany: Iran threat to Israel is a threat to West

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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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Germany: Iran threat to Israel is a threat to West


www.haaretz.com

Iran's denial of Israel's right to exist is unacceptable and Tehran must be prevented from obtaining a nuclear weapon, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in a speech before the U.S. Congress on Tuesday.

"Whoever threatens Israel also threatens us," she told Congress in an address to mark the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, which took place on November 9, 1989.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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Seems like somebody is finally waking up and seeing the threats that are happening in Europe/MidEast. I'm glad to see that Israel has a staunch ally in Germany. (Hey, that makes my German side a little happier.)

And just to state here, I'm not against the Iranian people. I hear they are good and honorable people and I believe that. However, I am against their government and the way they abuse their power. I just wish the US would look through the very thin veil and see just what Ahmedenijad is up to.

www.haaretz.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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How much is Germany Willing to risk to protect Israel? It's not gonna be their money spent or blood spilled if the U.S. decides to take care of Iran.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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Good Point but are the willing to send in there Armies to assisit the US/G.B in an attack on Iran, or will they oppose us like what happened in Iraq. My money is on the latter, a lot of people talk and bolster themselves. Notice she said this in the US and not Germany.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by wantsome
How much is Germany Willing to risk to protect Israel? It's not gonna be their money spent or blood spilled if the U.S. decides to take care of Iran.


It isn't Germany protecting Israel, it is Israel abusing the Germans and involving them in a conflict that doesn't concern them!



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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reply to post by willow1d
 


just another propaganda speech...
not to mention hypocritical

you don't see Iranians mass murder their minorities
like Israel is butchering Palestinians

how many nuclear bombs Iran have?
and how many Israel?

Iran is a threat to the world?

That's an ultimate
hypocritical statement
of an ignorant...





[edit on 3-11-2009 by donhuangenaro]



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 12:38 PM
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oh god, dec 1st 2010 e.u constitution comes into force, president, and high representative, they have the power to act with the combined might of e.u , if germany is already saying they will fight, and lets not forget the germans are THE power in e.u what they want, they will get. will it be a catalyst for the militarisation of the e.u? sit up and notice, a superpower will be born on new years day, and it already wants to fight.
To all the israel supporters, why do you think israel should have over 300 nukes and the iranians cant have 1? because they dont like israel is not good enough. they will not nuke israel.why? M.A.D
Why would they nuke the palestinians and their land? they wouldnt, they need the nuke to stop the israelis getting too big for their boots and stealing countries away from people. simple self defence. the slavish attitude towards the nazi like zionists of israel is sickening, they have a massive and sophisticated propaganda arm, and your mind is part of their battlefield.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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Palestinians are not Israeli minorities. They are not Israeli citizens.Or do you wish for Israel to annex the territories completely? Doubt that. And there is active armed conflict between Israel and Palestinians since 1920s. Both sides butcher each other, Israel caused more deaths,true.
But if you want to check how minorities are treated in Israel and Iran -do not make me laugh.
Bahai are doing great in Iran,for example. Just great. Other minorities are also pressed. Less,sure. But Israeli Arabs have greater conditions. Not ideal ,true. But you cannot even compare it.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 01:49 PM
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How about we take israel back since as always, the oppressed have done everything within their power to become the oppressor.

And they have.

Now israel seems to be liking the oppressor role, and since they got israel for being oppressed, now they lose it.

Afterall, isn't this the demand of all the islamic extremist groups: give israel back!

Let them have it!

We get peace of mind, and they lose their only bargaining tool!



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by donhuangenaro
reply to post by willow1d
 


Iran is a threat to the world?

That's an ultimate
hypocritical statement
of an ignorant...
[edit on 3-11-2009 by donhuangenaro]


I agree that the people of Iran aren't the enemy. It's the Iranian government. So how about this statement:

The Mullahs of Iran are a threat to the world.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:26 PM
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Oh good lord, I can see history repeating itself again, You might think Germany hass the power in the EU, they certainly do not. There will not be a united EU, if David Cameron has his way, he is staunchly against it, and the invention of the post of the EU President.

Even before this all happens there is going to be hostility between a futre Conservative Government and the EU as a whole.

[edit on 3-11-2009 by Laurauk]



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:27 PM
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reply to post by sos37
 


Who have the Mullahs of Iran waged war on in recent times compared to our two countries?



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by donhuangenaro
 


Palestinians are not Israeli minorities. They are not Israeli citizens.Or do you wish for Israel to annex the territories completely? Doubt that. And there is active armed conflict between Israel and Palestinians since 1920s. Both sides butcher each other, Israel caused more deaths,true.
But if you want to check how minorities are treated in Israel and Iran -do not make me laugh.
Bahai are doing great in Iran,for example. Just great. Other minorities are also pressed. Less,sure. But Israeli Arabs have greater conditions. Not ideal ,true. But you cannot even compare it.


really?

well, maybe they are not minority, but you israelis are behaving like they are...

I didn't see (yet) a sniper shooting on children going to school in Iran,
but I did in Israel

yes, it cannot be compared






posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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Sorry to say Laura that the EU is a done deal now,we have been cheated out on a vote on it by Labour and now its up and running today there realy isnt anything we can do about it

David has to get friends in Europe,that means not being too isolated-

One good thing is it looks like Tony Blair wont be the EU president!

Off topic but I can believe that revolting man was using his Middle East Peace Envoy job position to cosy up to govemenbts over their and try and get Tesco in the scene over there!All he ever thinks about is his wallet,shame his name will be remembered in history as he doesnt deserve any attention



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by sos37

Originally posted by donhuangenaro
reply to post by willow1d
 


Iran is a threat to the world?

That's an ultimate
hypocritical statement
of an ignorant...
[edit on 3-11-2009 by donhuangenaro]


I agree that the people of Iran aren't the enemy. It's the Iranian government. So how about this statement:

The Mullahs of Iran are a threat to the world.


you can also say that the American Congress is a threat to the world and you would be much closer to the truth




posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Maybe that special vaccine they gave her still had all the neuro-toxins in it after all?



This second line is dedicated to all the fine government officials who received special vaccinations that the public was not privy to.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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reply to post by donhuangenaro
 


And where did you see sniper shooting on children in Israel (i assume that you meant Gaza - and it is not Israel but this does not matter.)? In the best case you read about it on some anti-Israeli site without any sources. So there is no need for this emotional slander.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by sos37

Originally posted by donhuangenaro
reply to post by willow1d
 


Iran is a threat to the world?

That's an ultimate
hypocritical statement
of an ignorant...
[edit on 3-11-2009 by donhuangenaro]


I agree that the people of Iran aren't the enemy. It's the Iranian government. So how about this statement:

The Mullahs of Iran are a threat to the world.


Which "world" do irans leaders pose a threat to? one tiny little nation is scared, based on an irrational premise: iran will nuke muslim holy land. The "leaders", so called, of the US / UK have exported more death, disease and suffering.. who is more of a threat to the average peace loving person?

118 nations back irans nuclear program, these countries are not urinating themselves scared like a crying child not getting its way.. a google search of "118 nations + iran" = about 7,880,000 link references.

These non aligned nations understand the simple reality that iran wouldn't nuke the ancient cherished muslim holy stuff in israel, while vaporizing their palestinian brothers & sisters.

Would you blow up your stolen car if you wanted it back? or kill your friends you've been trying to liberate?.. destroying the village to save it is a US strategy.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by donhuangenaro
 


And where did you see sniper shooting on children in Israel (i assume that you meant Gaza - and it is not Israel but this does not matter.)? In the best case you read about it on some anti-Israeli site without any sources. So there is no need for this emotional slander.


How about this?


The tiny hole buried under Asma Mughayar's thick black hair, just above her right ear, is an illusion, according to the Israeli army. So is her family's insistence that Asma, 16, and her younger brother Ahmed, were both shot through the head by an Israeli soldier as they fed their pigeons and collected the laundry from the roof of their home in Rafah refugee camp. But their corpses tell a different story, as do the bodies of other children brought to Rafah's hospital and makeshift mortuaries even before yesterday's carnage, in which Israeli tanks and helicopters fired on a peaceful protest by Palestinians in the camp, killing 10 demonstrators, according to Palestinian paramedics.


www.guardian.co.uk...



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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reply to post by sos37
 


Still not a factual statement, since the Mullahs and Ayatollahs of Iran have never initiated a war against anyone. Unless you want to count their ill-advised counter-invasion of Iraq in the 80's, Even that was justifiable as it was pretty clear that Iraq wasn't going to stop attacking Iran after getting pushed out of Iran's borders.

One could argue that they're a threat to their fellow Iranians, I suppose.

But the world? Or even one country or another in the world? Ludicrous. Of course, I can't you to exactly be ingormed about iran beyond what Fox News or MEMRI might tell you.



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