Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Most people who end up victims end up victims because of poor judgement, lax oversight, and other things that endanger them.
That pretty much sums up every 2 or 3 year old molested, raped or murdered.
Yes it surely does Slayer, and most of it was entirely preventable in 20/20 hindsight.
We aren't taking our Monday Morning Quarterback Experiences and putting them to good use on the playing field though friend.
Reactive, retroactive retribution does little to proactively protect the most vulnerable.
A corrupted mind is impossible to uncorrupt unless you get into lobotomies and what not.
Deterrents don't actually work against deviants with corrupted minds friend.
Their corrupted mind and deviance is ultimately going to hold sway over the fear of possible future punishment. That's down the road, their urgent
need is today.
How do we better protect the at risk population today? Retribution won't do that, it just weans the potential victimizer pool down.
You can't apply your sane mind's your non-deviant mind's standards to an insane one or a deviant one and realistically expect them to mean
In fact some even invite the additional challenges to up the adrenalin anti Slayer.
It's about protecting these kids, truly protecting them.
Personally as a parent I wanted to just lock my kids in the closet until they turned 18! That's the extreme I wanted to protect them.
I know what goes on out there in the world. I am not naive or blind to it.
The argument for retribution should not be mixed with the argument for protection in my humble opinion.
The reality is retribution has never stopped these crimes and it never will stop these crimes.
As far as the argument for retribution goes, uncivilized retribution doesn't highlight a need for civilized behavior but promotes the concept that
there are circumstances where we need not be civilized. The more often you do that the more widely such standards will end up being applied in the
society the government is simply a reflection of.
If death must occur instead of imprisonment or surgery then it should be swift, and humane.
As civilized as an uncivilized thing can be.
Otherwise you do end up promoting a barbarous society. Is not half the argument against the Islamic East in regards to some of its more barbarous
behavior and justice?
A condom might help you not catch a sexual disease, ultimately abstaining is the only thing that will guarantee it.
Therefore the only thing that's going to stop predators is keeping children safe from them. We don't know they are predators until their predatory
behavior is successful though. The trick is keeping the herd safe from them by keeping the herd better guarded.
That's common sense friend. How do we better guard the herd?
[edit on 3/11/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]