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Knights Templar Still Exist?


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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 03:39 AM by george_gaz


Originally posted by JoshNorton
You had me until you brought up the Priory of Sion, a hoax that was established in 1956, many centuries after the Templars...


On the contrary ...

Where I say Priory of Sion I am simply referring to what it is "widely" known as in the conspiracy circles. I believe that it has gone through many names in the past and may have included the Rosicrucians.

Have you read The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail?
I personally believe that after having read that I am 99% convinced that a "Priory of Sion" did exist behind the Templars and put them into the position that they were in when they found the "treasure" in the Holy Land.

There must have been a force behind the original nine knights that went to Jerusalem because why on Earth would the King have given them such a lavish barracks on such a sacred place as Temple Mount? Nine random knights from Europe who claim they wanted to help pilgrims (yet no evidence, to my knowledge, exists that shows that they did) get offered such fantastic quarters?

It just doesn't add up.

Out of interest could you direct me towards this hoax in 1956? I am aware of the Priory of Sion being listed in French records as a "secret society" and assume you are alluding to this?

Thanks



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 08:53 AM by JoshNorton


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It's been 20 years, but yes, I've read Holy Blood, Holy Grail and even then, in pre-WWW days, I knew that Plantard had perpetrated a hoax. (Don't reacall how I knew that, but I thought it was all covered in HBHG, to be honest.)

Regardless, the wikipedia page is quite detailed in its account. And curiously enough, while at the top of that article it states "a name given to multiple groups, both real and fictitious", the article really doesn't mention any real or historical usage of the name predating 1956.

If you've got pre-Plantard conspiracy books that mention the Priory by name, by all means list them here. My guess is that every "reputable CT" that you want to list is forked from this one hoax and has no basis in fact.

(Edit to add...)
Just checked my 1921 printing of Nesta Webster's World Revolution and my 1934 printing of Edith Starr Miller's Occult Theocracy, two bibles for conspiracy theorists (despite their inaccuracies) and neither of them list any Priories among their indices. I don't have my Robison handy at the moment, but I don't think the Priory is mentioned there either, if I recall correctly. So how is it that you claim this "widely known" organization that you say has been around for centuries is not mentioned in any of the classic text?

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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 02:52 PM by george_gaz


Originally posted by JoshNorton
So how is it that you claim this "widely known" organization that you say has been around for centuries is not mentioned in any of the classic text?


Hi Josh,

My bad, I don't think that I was clear enough in what I said earlier.

When I said "widely known as the Priory of Sion" I mean that people will call it the Priory of Sion because that is the most famous or "widely known" name for it. For example, in the Davinci Code it is called the Priory of Sion, thus has become widely known as this.
I believe that the "Priory of Sion" as a "force behind the Templars" did exist from the very beginning but was not called the "Priory of Sion" until much later. Possibly the name Prior of Sion came directly from this hoax that you mentioned.
I have read HBHG a few times and was not aware of them exposing Plantard as a fake? I recall them thinking that he was genuine. Maybe there has been a later edition to the one that I have where the authors state this?

[edit on 7-11-2009 by george_gaz]



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reply posted on 12-11-2009 @ 05:46 AM by ats__fan039


YES

truth be told, there are many PUBLIC faces of the Knights Templar, from Masonic Orders to Catholic / Vatican / Christian orders of the Knights Templar.

They each claim to operate differently with different goals. However, they are the SAME organization, with the same elements and key structures of thier secret SOCIETY, either masonic or non, catholic or non, they are all the same group, they are KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. they observe and practice the following:


-must be Christian and swear to Defend the Christian Faith
-Use the RED CROSS (Rosicrucian, rose croix) (RED CROSS INTERNATIONAL)
-Heal the "SICK" / Help the poor / spread the faith
-use the Cross and Crown and or Olive branch (UN, masonry, KT)
-engage in ritual, rites, and degrees

they are the same Judea-Christian-Masonic-Islam organization, the one and only KNIGHTS TEMPLAR

they are ALL THE SAME organization and elite cabal brotherhood, although they have many "splinters" or "tentacles" or "sects". They each provide key roles in the Knights Templar as a whole and are heavily integrated within the New World Order, Vatican, Masonry, Christianity, and essentially all major religions (WT/JW, Mormons, Seven Day Adventist, Presbyterian, Protestant

Same people. essentially the same beliefs in each group, they are the Knights Templars. The Temple, The Bankers. The Corporation of London.



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reply posted on 12-11-2009 @ 09:12 PM by ForkandSpoon


Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit!!!

Of course!



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reply posted on 12-11-2009 @ 09:33 PM by silent thunder


And while we're at it, let us not forget the Ordo Templi Orientis. (Or maybe we should forget it).



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reply posted on 12-11-2009 @ 09:51 PM by ForkandSpoon


Let's not bring those post Victorian hippies into this.



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