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WAR: English Words and Western Voices Heard on Nick Berg Beheading Video

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posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:00 AM
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The original article has been updated with new audio information.



d1k

posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:03 AM
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I can put the original video on my web space and post a link here If its allowed. Is it allowed?

As far as the voices, I have not listened closely to it yet but since these interesting developments came to light I will be listening to the original video again to see if I can spot them.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:08 AM
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Personally, probably Military Intelligence if is was not the terrorists..... I do not think it was the CIA. They are too good about covering their tracks..... Now... Military Intelligence is a contradiction in itself and they are not the most Intelligent folks on the planet.....
I am not conviced either way as I personally do not want to see the vid, just my assumption if there is english.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by The Blade Runner

Haha, where the # were you when the American goverment droped napalm on cambodian kids...


I was five and living in San Antonio Texas uprooted from my home to be near the Brooks burn ward to see if my brother would live through the burns over 65% of his body after his chopper was shot down in Viet Nam...

WTF were you? You weren't even born, were you? You dont' know what you're talking about...as usual, do you?

If you have a very good suggestion as to what I should have been doing differently at the age of five to stop the madness...it won't make any difference, I'm not five any more.


No i was not alive during vietnam, but i am alive during this aparent war.. I am pissed off because i dont see your threads kicking up a fuss over other issues, yet you have the audacity to post this as an 'exclusive' when it has been all over the web for about 4 days and that you gave other members of this website crap for looking into it and everybody says well done valhall..

The point is, this is one man, Possibly killed by Americans as properganda to insite hatred towards Muslims has been killed, and what? this is aparently a war this crap gos on.. Do i see you as an american complaining about 'Your Tax Dollers' being used to buy bombs that are droped on schools and hospitals in iraq so that 'halliburton' ect can get rebuilding contracts and so George bush who i may add is an 'illegitimate president' can make money for his most of his office who own oil companys..

I dont think you actually give a # about the real issues as you are making out in this thread, i think this thread is for your own personal satisfaction so you feel important to this website..



"oh my god an americans been killed by another american"

"oh my god this is terrible valhall, well done for finding this out"



Look around you in the streets, there are crack addicts everywhere...gun crime, police corruption, and your making such a fuss over 1 man..jesus #ing christ..

You know what i cant be arsed even talking about this... i have allready had two point deductions and 3 negative u2u's about this thread.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:14 AM
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I, like many others that have heard the audio, am not really surprised. I heard the voices. For those who don't hear it plain as day, listen again. I played it for some people at work and didn't tell them what Val posted the voices said. They all heard the same phrase. 3 seperate people heard the same phrase.

This was professionally produced to give the press something to chew on other than the embarrasing Abu Ghraib situation. Did he really die? I don't know. Was he alive or dead when this was filmed? I don't know. The only thing I do know about it is that two (2) distinct American voices are on the end of that video.
Something will come out about this. It has to.

btw
BladeRunner, didn't you just come back from being banned? I think you need to lay off Val. Personal attacks aren't tolerated here, you know that.

[Edited on 5-20-2004 by darklanser]



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:31 AM
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Two new enhancements of the audio at the end of this video. Method: I upsampled the MP3 to 44khz/16big audio (CD quality) then applied two equalizers, one to decrease the noise introduced from compressing the audio track, and another to enhance the frequencies of male voices. After that, I applied two noise gates, one very short gate to clip the remaining noise peaks, and another set to Attack-10ms/Release-180ms with a threashold of -20db (somewhat standard to reduce background noise). Here are the files in two bit-depths. berg-video-end-44k.wav 44khz 16bit (395k) berg-video-end-22k.wav 22khz 16bit (181k) There is a new phrase clearly heard between what we believe to he "how wicked was that" and the more garbled end phrase thought to be "how we gonna..." The new phrase appears to be: "that was f-ing cool" See for yourself. Alternative opinions and ideas are very welcome.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by darklanser

BladeRunner, didn't you just come back from being banned? I think you need to lay off Val. Personal attacks aren't tolerated here, you know that.



Its not a personal attack, im stating my opinion..

[Edited on 20-5-2004 by The Blade Runner]



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:37 AM
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Sorry, I don't hear it. What equipment are you listening to it with?



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:39 AM
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Blade... I'm sure the "Exclusive" prefix originally attached to this finding was related to the alternative analysis of the seemingly english word heard at the end of the video. While there indeed has been some previous speculation of what is being said, in english, at the end, I think the previous analysis of it being "they will be done" is incorrect. Cool down huh? We're all looking for truths here.


d1k

posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:42 AM
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It's VERY hard to hear on the original video. Heres a link to the video, I checked the rules and could not find anything about links to your own web space so if this is not allowed a mod can edit my post and take out this link.

WARNING: This is the original beheading video. Very graphic!

home.cogeco.ca...

[Edited on 20-5-2004 by d1k]



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:45 AM
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I listened to SkepticOverlords sound pieces. I really don't know what you guys are hearing. It looks to me like this is the same argument people had over the missile attached to the bottom of the WTC plane.
You are hearing what you want to hear. Its a rorschach test for the ears. Other web sites are saying that everyone can hear "clearly" english voices say "Thy will be done." What you need is an arabic speaker to listen and tell you what they are saying (if he can make it out) in Arabic.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by Undomiel Sorry, I don't hear it. What equipment are you listening to it with?
Mac PB17, studio headphones. This is how I hear it:



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:47 AM
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Variable... I agree somewhat. With this enhancement, the original "how wicked was that" is less obvious than it seemed to be the first time around when I simply cranked the volume. But the second voice, "that was f-ing cool" seems very clear to me.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:50 AM
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just wanted to add, I made several friends and my husband listen to the audio carefully without telling them what the said words were last night. They all heard similiar phrases and everyone agreed on "how are we gonna" and were shocked, then I told them the words that Val and others thought they heard and they all agreed.

so just to note, it's not that we're programmed to hear those words cause we knew what to expect before listening. I read the thread before I listened yesterday, so I thought there was a possibility that my mind just accepted what was said, after doing the little test on my friends and husband, I have to say, that's not the case.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:51 AM
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Weird. On the full length tape I hear it plain as day...but the shortened bits are too distorted (perhaps tweaked) for my laptop.

Just letting people know, if you can't hear it on the edits...listen to the original.

It's plain as day for me.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 08:25 AM
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Yea, its plain as day to other people too, they are hearing other phrases though. I have no preconcieved notions either way, I listened very carefully.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 08:47 AM
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I have listened to the clips that Skeptic posted, they are clearly American voices, two people it seems. Crazy.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 08:59 AM
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And I again listened.... nothing but guys chanting allah akhbar over and over again at different volumes, pitches and intonations (from their various voices).



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 08:59 AM
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yep, i heard.
this is one fast growing post btw,
fanastic find, i cant wait to share with my friends,
i couldnt draw myself away for 3 hrs reading all posts and links.
phew glad to get this far,



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 10:09 AM
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Haven't really kept up to speed on this thread btw, but got bored today and played around with this a bit. Quite frankly, there is nothing decisive there at all.

There is clearly talking there, but really thats all we can be sure of. The combination of the automatic volume gain on the camera and the artifacts produced by converting to .wmv ensure it is pretty much impossible to tell. It could be 'how wicked was that' but it could also be a number of other things. The 'that was f-ing cool' is an incredible stretch at best. And the very last bit actually sounds more and more arabic as you listen to it.

It really is a case of hearing what you are told to, the same as much of the things 'heard' in reverse speech, or a lot of 'ghost in the machine' type anomalies. I tried this out with a few people who were at the studio today. Noone heard 'how wicked was that' or anything discernable until I told them what to listen for. Two of the guys were musicians and one was a producer, so all have well trained ears and are accustomed to picking out sounds.

Its mumbling, it would be interesting to get an arab-speaking person (or ideally a few) to tell us what they hear, if they all think its the same then we are probably on the money. Without being told beforehand its very hard to hear much beyond mumbling. Try it on your friends.




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