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Wake Up America! - Youtube video

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posted on Nov, 2 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by srslyguyz
 


Something tells me that if our Government suddenly switched to the boogeyman Sharia Law way of doing things, not a single red blooded American would stand for it.

Especially the Military.

But according to the paranoia of some, apparently we'll find out who's right really soon.

Kind of like Y2k, Year 2012, 1999, 1998, 1997....99.....55....33.....2.....BC


You know...all those years that had predictions of doom and gloom that have NEVER...ONCE come true.


who are you trying to convince? hope its not me.. i didnt buy into y2k, i have not bought into 2012, the rest of the other dates im not familiar with, and dates/prophocies are not something i invest any trust in, im a skeptic in all areas. i dont believe ---- until after i have reserched it enough for me to grasp a strong understanding of what it is im believing or not believing. as far as your belief, i think there are more than enough examples of people dropping there ideals in an instant for a dollar. if you honestly believe that every soldier is going to stop doing what there told just becasue its wrong, then your optomism is cute, but far off from reality. mob mentality is a constant for most, and for the other soldiers a strong sence of obediance is ground into them. there are many, like the oath keepers that i trust, but for the rest... there still people, and disobeying while being in the armed forces is a difficult thing to do, something proven that most wont do

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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by Snarf
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SO...here is what i've gathered from your post

It's about a video made by a a British guy (you chose to point that out specifically) so i assume then, that by your standards, since he's not American...that somehow makes him more credible.

Then, you go on to presume that some how, over night, the US government will install Sharia Law and we'll all be slaves (i over simplify...but i believe this is the gist of it)

So, my question is, who will be there to support that Sharia Law?
Do you honestly believe that our Military will support it?

Do you honestly believe our Militia's will support it?
Do you believe our backyard Rambos and wannabe militants will support it?

Have you thought it through this far into your fantasy world?

If and when you do finally get around to that...we'll be here


No,
you assume incorrectly.

I point out that he is British because there is a lot of concern among certain groups of Americans that the constitution is being eroded, and that could be seen as conspiracy theories among the more patriotically minded.

The fact that he is British means that he is not effected by the constitution, and so he has no vested interest one way or the other to come to this conclusion - it is not from fear of losing something he holds dear, it is a conclusion based on observation.

Your comments re: "who will be there to support sharia law" completely miss the point.

The suggestion is not that sharia law will be implemented overnight, but rather that a long slow process of chipping away at the constitution will occur driven primarily by Islam on the back of claims that somehow their beliefs are being insulted, and so they are being victimised.

This doesn't have to be a direct assault on the constitution itself, but on free speech in general.

If you don't think it can happen just have a look at Europe - you would not believe how crazy things have got here - Politicians being taken to court for telling the truth is not a joke, it is actually happening - because it offends Islam.

Will your military support it?

They will do as they are told. Things are changed slowly piece by piece and gradually they will find that the World around them has changed into something they don't recognise, didn't ask for, and don't want.

If you dare to stand up and speak out about it you're labelled a racist nazi and you are instantly discredited.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Power_Semi
I'm convinced that in the UK everything thats happening is to destroy Britishness so that there is no resistance to joining the EU.

You're not alone. Most of us with our heads screwed on straight have also know this for a long time, and then we get a former Labour advisor letting slip that mass-immigration was a deliberate plan (see here).

Pat Condell is a staunch atheist and as someone quite spiritual I disagree with him on that point. But almost everything else he says is spot on. Some of you Americans might be in denial that what he's talking about could become a reality, but I hope you wake up quicker than we did here. The Islamification of my country (England) is almost irreversible without some very severe measures. The head-in-the-sand 'liberals' might denounce us as 'scaremongering' but the Muslims themselves know what's in their grasp - which is why a number of prominent leaders in the Muslim world (including Colonel Gaddafi) have already announced that Allah is set to grant Europe to the Muslim world through birthrates alone.

You're next America.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 04:47 AM
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Hi Cythraul,
I had seen that previously about mass immigration being admitted as policy.

A former (?) Labour politician has also recently admitted that the policy to destroy British monuments and buildings from the height of Britains power and to replace them with concrete tower blocks in the 1970's to create a concrete jungle was an attempt to smash British patriotism and to create a communist inspired society.

If you can remove the cohesion from a society then you are left with a collection of individuals who are far easier to control and force whichever way you like.

Which is why they have destroyed the unions over here in England and why they're trying to socially engineer a fractured society that has "Nothing British" whatsoever.

[edit on 3-11-2009 by Power_Semi]



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:08 AM
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i think it is fairly obvious that globally, our rights are being taken away. The entire islam issue is just another false flag of sorts, to surreptitiously remove rights and break down freedoms, to implement that conspiratorial bogeyman, the new world order.

Consider how Islamic countries have been treated since, lets say, the crusades, to modern times. Islam has never exactly been a power base within human culture and i think the treatment of these peoples over the centuries is finally starting to reverberate back up the pipeline of history.

So now, in the west, we pretend we give a #* about them, whilst invading countries that, lets face it, consist of mainly arab muslims.

No, i believe that everything that is happening on the planet is happening as it should be. That is to say, there is a very small minority of people pulling the strings on world issues and that things like "financial collapse", "911" and maybe even certain natural disasters, are all highly orchestrated events, designed to keep the rest of us in line.


*I didnt censor the word # because i think that would really make a mockery of this thread, the web site and just plain fun. mods gots 2 relax yo!



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:15 AM
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This is what you get as image is you try to log to Pat's youtube page from UAE, sharpest example of freedom of speech:




posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:16 AM
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Exactly. It's DIVIDE AND CONQUER - very simple, ancient technique of control.

I also agree with davo2012 that it's primarily the doing of a new world order. Islam currently serves as an extremely powerful tool for destroying conhesion and tradition worldwide. Islam is not in control (though many radical Muslims think they are) and when the new world order is completely established, Islam's potency will be destroyed as quickly as Christianity's has been. That said, it doesn't mean that Islam itself is innocent by any means.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:19 AM
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I've seen a few of this guy's videos on YouTube before. Like him or hate him, he does have a big set of gonads to come out and say these things. Not saying I agree with his views, but he is honest and unapologetic, and pretty funny too. If you are easily offended, it's probably not a good idea to watch him. For everyone else, watch and enjoy some unique British humour...

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Cythraul
I also agree with davo2012 that it's primarily the doing of a new world order. Islam currently serves as an extremely powerful tool for destroying conhesion and tradition worldwide. Islam is not in control (though many radical Muslims think they are) and when the new world order is completely established, Islam's potency will be destroyed as quickly as Christianity's has been. That said, it doesn't mean that Islam itself is innocent by any means.


Of worthy note is that two countries with the biggest Protestant Christian populations in the world are being systematically destroyed by the Global Elite. A Holy war consisting of Christianity vs. Islam vs. Judaism could be sparked at any time in the near future. Am I being paranoid? Maybe, but after doing the amount of research that I have, things don't look very promising...

[edit on 3/11/2009 by Dark Ghost]



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:21 AM
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Can you believe that this is London today?

Right in the middle of Wembley...



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by Power_Semi
 


SO...here is what i've gathered from your post

It's about a video made by a a British guy (you chose to point that out specifically) so i assume then, that by your standards, since he's not American...that somehow makes him more credible.

Then, you go on to presume that some how, over night, the US government will install Sharia Law and we'll all be slaves (i over simplify...but i believe this is the gist of it)

So, my question is, who will be there to support that Sharia Law?
Do you honestly believe that our Military will support it?

Do you honestly believe our Militia's will support it?
Do you believe our backyard Rambos and wannabe militants will support it?

Have you thought it through this far into your fantasy world?

If and when you do finally get around to that...we'll be here


I think you're missing the whole point of this thread and of the video.

No, it isn't going to happen overnight. It will be a slow and steady erosion like it has been in Europe and other countries.

news.bbc.co.uk...
www.timesonline.co.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...

Pat is beginning to feel like Europe and his own country are lost causes. He's telling us to wake up before it begins to happen here.

It is a rather easy concept to understand as we are already seeing the erosion of our freedoms from policies being implemented by our past presidential administrations. It didn't happen overnight but many will agree that something is happening to our "freedom".

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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by srslyguyz
 


Something tells me that if our Government suddenly switched to the boogeyman Sharia Law way of doing things, not a single red blooded American would stand for it.

Especially the Military...


As a Vet of Gulf War I, I can assure you how horrified I was at how many US soldiers were converting to Islam while we were in country.

From what I have heard the conversions have ramped up since Gulf War II. So my point is, don’t be so quick to state that your military would not support Sharia Law, because by now about half the military is Islamic!

The security of your nation is now in the hands of the American militia forces. Pray they have the equipment and leadership required for the long and bloody battle that is coming.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:14 AM
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do you people honestly believe that one of the most established country in the world will foolishly wash away its foundation? that the brightest minds in existence will simply bow down to a foreign policy without a brutal war? or to just accept and honor any given ideal without questioning? do you people really believe this is whats happening? that we're all just catering to a religion? really? seriously?

foolish really. the ones messing with the constitution are americans, not some guy riding a camel in the middle east. your elected officials, people who are working for you, those sitting in the white house. who's passing the laws here? certainly not osama bin laden. americans, if they do not allow it, it won't happen. yet, some of you believe someone outside of the united states of america is destroying your rights. how can you even begin to believe such a scenario?

look at it this way, in chess you can fool your opponent into taking a valuable piece-it may be valuable but only play a sacrificial role. certainly, you're not a fool, you know you're going to checkmate your opponent with the next move, idiots just don't see it. this is how a logical mind work. dig a little deeper my friends.



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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:33 AM
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Half baked conspiracy theorists telling everyone to wake up based on some weird view of a political or legal implementation is getting tired.

Are these people craving attention after some long failed life with a poor attitude?

I'm not sure it's america that needs waking up so much as these folks who wring their hands, worry a lot and bleat and foot stamp every time a law is passed.




posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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If "we the people" are ever to regain the freedom we are fast loosing we first must get rid of the sorry trash, scum cancer that has become malignant in all three branches of our government. This scum that now resides in Washington DC is evil to the core and their agenda has become over the last several years all to clear. Fascism, socialistic blended with dictatorship. They (this scum) are the traitors along with the real power behind the curtain that few ever witness. Soon they will expose their agenda to a point of no return. I am one that will stand against these liars from hell. My wish is to take at least two of them with me when they show up in my neighborhood.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 08:15 AM
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It's terribly sad to see ATS members, a group I once admired as truth-seeking, intelligent, open-minded, skeptics, posting a YouTube video with some guy spouting doom and gloom and going off as if he had revealed the holy freaking grail or something! It's so sad that people would take what he says as any kind of fact WITHOUT FURTHER RESEARCH!

As far as I can tell, not ONE ATS member went in search of further evidence and just totally accepted what the funny little man in the little box said. How conditioned are you to believe what people say? Do you believe your TV news this easily? This is insanity!

Obama does not support this resolution.

US Government's Response regarding the Defamation of Religion Resolution



As stated in its previous submissions to the United Nations, the United States does not believe the concept of “defamation of religions” is consistent with international human rights law. We believe the resolution seeks unacceptable limitations on speech and that such measures do not properly address the underlying concerns emphasized in the text. Our concerns and objections are well known. (See Tab 1 and Tab2.)
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In his June 4, 2009 speech in Cairo, President Obama stressed that the United States must fight against the negative stereotyping of religion when he stated, “I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they occur.” The United States believes that States have the tools to fight these problems at their disposal, and that the best way for governments to address these issues is to develop effective legal regimes to address acts of discrimination and bias-inspired crime; to condemn hateful ideology and proactively reach out to all religious communities, especially minority groups; and to vigorously defend the rights of individuals to practice their religion freely and exercise their freedom of expression.


Here's the existing thread which falsely claims that Obama backs limits on free speech.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Carry on. Have fun embracing that ignorance.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by dooper

It's like a cancer. Stays low grade in its infancy, increases symptoms with the increase in numbers, and before you know it, the host has been overcome.


That's exactly what the fifth column is suppose to do. Infiltrate, integrate, and eventually overcome.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by djusdjus
Half baked conspiracy theorists telling everyone to wake up based on some weird view of a political or legal implementation is getting tired.

Are these people craving attention after some long failed life with a poor attitude?

I'm not sure it's america that needs waking up so much as these folks who wring their hands, worry a lot and bleat and foot stamp every time a law is passed.


I'm sorry that you need to come on a forum which deals mostly with conspiracy subjects, and start making offensive generalisations about conspiracy theorists. I'll leave you to your reality if you leave me to mine.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by RedAmnesia
Can you believe that this is London today?

Right in the middle of Wembley...


WOW!!!
Really puts home what we have been hearing and some of their officials are now starting to admit they handled immigration poorly. As my home city Toronto Ontario is also a highly immigrated spot i do have opinions on this matter. No more valid than anyone elses for the record, i have to say that wanting your country to be predominantly filled with your countrymen IS NOT RACIST!!!! Its not that i am/we are against Muslims or Arabs, if they were Dutch, Swedish, German, Irish anything any citizen of a country will have an issue if they begin to see a decline in their own countrymen.
That being said and to be fair in Toronto it works better, but we dont have one group of people coming in faster than another. Still if anyone has ever traveled to Ontario the majority of people i have spoken to are not in favour of our immigration policy, to put it into perspective we (Canada) is a nation of 33,739,990 as of July 1st 2009, we took in 429,649 permanent residences in 2008.
For us here i never here ohh we dont want them or dont let (insert person here) you dont really here complaints like that. We understand the beenfits we have received from all these people, our only complaint is that when people come to Canada they dont become Canadian, they are still a Chinese person living in Canada or Pakistani person in Canada. They hold onto their countries belief systems, morals, and even laws now. All we demand as a people is if you decide to leave your country for ours it is our hope that the nature to which you were drawn to Canada stays preserved. Countries are ideals and laws, not one set of people, we all immigrated at some point. It is not the people but the insistance on not adapting to our way of life, within reason of course.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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Thanks for this thread. Starred and flag! The US is changing as well. We must all fight for our freedoms.



posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:04 AM
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Well put Benevolent Heretic.

Fear does abound on ATS, and unfortunately it attacks the minds of the weak.
Everyone loves to jump on the "going to hell in a hand basket mentality" bandwagon. Not saying that there arent corrupt people in high places attempting to get a tighter squeeze on the masses, but in the end people...
ITS ALL ABOUT $. that is all. money is king. money is power. politicians have it, and so do the people and corporations who fill their coffers when election time rolls around.

you think the elite want a bunch of crazy islamic fanatics running around ruling the worlds most powerful nations in the next decade? hell no. religious fanatics are dangerous because you cant control them. they dont fight for money. they fight for their invisible god in the sky.

there will always be a fight between the different religions. and there will always be a fight between the logical and the religious zealots. nobody ever wants to be wrong, they always want to be right, and they love a good fight.

some were born to lead, some to follow. some were born to rule, and the rest where born to serve.

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