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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:31 PM by sligtlyskeptical
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by jam321
Notice how this little tidbit at the end was left out of the very tiny article?
 A recent report by the United Nations states that Afghan opium is having a devastating impact on the world, killing thousands in consumer
countries.
The opium trade is the major source of Taliban financing. 
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thats where the big lie resides. The Taliban, when in power, prohibited the growing of poppies. This is why the Taliban is our enemy, so the drug
trade can go on.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:40 PM by Jauqx
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Was gonna point out the same thing. The ONLY organization that ever was serious about baning opium was the Taliban - and they were effective.
Punishment for growing opium was death. After the occupation opium/heroin production has risen 1000's of %...
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:47 PM by SLAYER69
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Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
thats where the big lie resides. The Taliban, when in power, prohibited the growing of poppies. This is why the Taliban is our enemy, so the drug
trade can go on.
Well?
Which is it then? Is the entire article BS or the truth? Because if the entire article is true then that piece about the Taliban is accurate. If it's
BS then then entire story is BS.
I wasn't the one writing the story. PressTV was. That's off of their website. Doesn't it seem a little bit odd that people will believe one part of
the article yet ignore other information as BS in the very same article?
Not something I wrote.
So much for PressTV 
PressTV
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:55 PM by jam321
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Was gonna point out the same thing. The ONLY organization that ever was serious about baning opium was the Taliban - and they were effective.
This article was written on Feb. 2001. That means according to the article that in 2000 Afghan produced 75% of the world stash. 1999 was a record
year.
Last year, Afghanistan produced nearly 4,000 tons of opium, about 75 percent of the world's supply, U.N. officials said. Opium -- the milky
substance drained from the poppy plant -- is converted into heroin and sold in Europe and North America. The 1999 output was a world record for opium
production, the United Nations said -- more than all other countries combined, including the "Golden Triangle," where the borders of Thailand, Laos
and Myanmar meet.
Mullah Mohammed Omar, the Taliban's supreme leader, banned poppy growing before the November planting season and augmented it with a religious edict
making it contrary to the tenets of Islam.
The Taliban, which has imposed a strict brand of Islam in the 95 percent of Afghanistan it controls, has set fire to heroin laboratories and jailed
farmers until they agreed to destroy their poppy crops.
www.opioids.com...
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:57 PM by jam321
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They've been caught bringing narcotics over from South America in planes more than once.
How many times have they been caught bringing it from Afghanistan?
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 05:01 PM by Divinorumus
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Well, what did you expect when all those illegal Americans began crossing other nation borders to infest their sovereign lands. Don't worry though,
them illegal Mexicans are doing the same to America, so it's all fair turn-around, ha. 
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 05:13 PM by ThaLoccster
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I believe one of the things the Taliban was against was opium.
I think I have reports about after we invaded Afganistan the first thing we did was allow the opium production and after that was the biggest opium
harvest on record.
I used to have a video of the head of the DEA saying the CIA imports pretty much all drugs into the U.S. Video has since been removed from youtube,
not sure if another copy is on there.
I'll look through my old bookmarks for the stories. I'm sure a quick search will net results though.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 06:59 PM by Walkswithfish
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Not only are they involved, but the boys back home get the goods to market.
A joint import/distribution network in the USA makes it all possible, and there are rogue agents and agencies working together with their buddies in
organized crime to make it happen.
The Afghan tar and pure as well as unprocessed opium are brought right into US commercial ports after being trans-loaded at sea onto special ships in
containers. Occasionally flown in per special requests. Most often in large shipping containers mixed with legitimate commercial imports, from
distribution warehouses inside the USA onto commercial trucks carrying sealed brokered loads then on to delivery locations throughout the country.
There are a hell of a lot of people (in high places) who profit immensely from this, and will stop at nothing to protect it.
It aint just afghan goods, imports from south America, Mexico and even Asia are handled in a similar manner.
You have no idea how corrupt they are... But what the hell do I know?
Forget you even read this post.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 07:31 PM by Dramey
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seems a lot of drug threads are popping up lately, but also seems certain ones are being censored less then others, interesting another thread up on
the main page dealing with drugs, yet other pages are taken down instantly
interesting stance taken by ats
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 07:37 PM by Walkswithfish
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Originally posted by Dramey
seems a lot of drug threads are popping up lately, but also seems certain ones are being censored less then others, interesting another thread up on
the main page dealing with drugs, yet other pages are taken down instantly
interesting stance taken by ats
Maybe they haven't seen this one yet?
But then again, it does involve a very real conspiracy...A conspiracy so dangerous that it would quite possibly be in the best interests of ATS and
various government agencies to have this thread removed, censored and erased, deleted, trashed or whatever before it has an "opportunity" to explore
that conspiracy further.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 07:50 PM by eikmun
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reply to post by praxis
Iran officials are also heavily involved in the drug trade. members of the military and paramilitary forces trade arms for drugs. the iran populace
has to deal with the problem.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:23 PM by SLAYER69
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reply to post by Walkswithfish
UN report: Russia becomes largest market for Afghan
heroinRussia has become the biggest consumer of Afghan heroin with 21% of all the drug consumed in the world, as of the latest UN Office on
Drugs and Crime report “Addiction, Crime and Insurgency” published on October 21.
According to the report, no less than 70 tons of heroin were trafficked to Russia in 2008 – that’s three times more than to the US and Canada
together, and much more than previously estimated.
“It's being brought to Russia across the unprotected, transparent, and I would call them virtual borders, which were established after the collapse
of the Soviet Union,” says Viktor Ivanov, head of the Federal Drug Control Service.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:37 PM by Walkswithfish
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"70 tons of heroin"
Wow... yep it must all be going to Russia.
Have any idea how much Afghan grown opium made into heroin ends up being pummped into the veins of Americans in the USA on average per year, in recent
years?
That whole supply and demand thing ya know?
The drug market in the USA is vast, profits high and is a major source of income for a lot of people in positions of power and influence.
The almighty dollar, US corrupted agencies, government officials, military personnel, rogue agents, and last but not least top key organized crime
syndicates all work together.
Afghan opium is more valuable than Iraqi oil is or ever was... that is why it was proven to be the "wrong war"
The Russian drug market hardly compares but it has potential.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:46 PM by ANNED
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a friend back when i was in the navy was a NCIS agent and he caught a many CONTRACT CIA agents supplementing there CIA pay with drugs.
some of these contract agents were military working off the books(whitewashed CIA paramilitary troops) for the CIA and still getting service time for
military retirement as CIA blackops.
if he caught them the CIA would do little to them other then transfer them someplace else.
but there military branch would try to throw the book at them when there no longer worked for the CIA.
but this seldom worked as the CIA would classifie everything top secret and would not allow ANYTHING these contract personal did for the CIA to be
used in a court martial.
Once in a while one of these contract agents would brag about how they could get away with anything while working for the CIA even smuggling drugs to
line there own pockets while working for the CIA.
He got some of these people on tape saying they were not smuggling for the CIA but to line there own pockets.
These people were later court marshaled by there military branch when the CIA no longer needed them and lost all there military benefits
Then the CIA ether told these people tough luck.
Or got the court marial records sealed and paid these people a small CIA retirement.
Or lastly some the CIA gave new identities and paid them a retirement.
But the military when possible got rid of all there people that were working for the CIA when they got caught smuggling drugs.
But this NCIS agent said that almost all the CIA people were breaking the laws by smuggling something, Many times things other then drugs.
antiquities, gems, weapons, ECT ECT,
It seamed to be that the CIA personal all supplemented there incomes and believed that the laws did not apply to them. only a few smuggled drugs.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:04 PM by praxis
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Originally posted by eikmun
Iran officials are also heavily involved in the drug trade. members of the military and paramilitary forces trade arms for drugs. the iran populace
has to deal with the problem.
I was doing some research a few years back -- seems like I recall a story that about 40% of Turkeys GDP was due to illegal narcotics trafficking by
the military and government.
It's no coincidence that Turkey is running massive influence peddling, spy rings and other covert operations in the US. The Turks and the Israelis
have infiltrated the US government completely.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:17 PM by PenandSword
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Originally posted by groingrinder
Great Avian Flu Avatar!! I totally agree with this post. The war on drugs is a two headed dragon fighting itself. Job security baby!! George Bush
Sr as CIA head was the biggest drug dealer America has ever known.
Not many people know that, but it is true. GB Sr is also a Nazi. He is an archcriminal of the worst order. In fact, every President post-JFK is
just as much a criminal as GB Sr...basically CIA stooges flanked with Freemasonic minions of the Illuminati.
Russia and China got communism. Germany got Nazism. America will now fall prey to a double dose of Communism and Nazism, or Communazism. Just look
around people. Look with your own eyes and do the research. It becomes clear as day once you lift the wool that's been pulled over your eyes. Do
it quickly before it's too late.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:21 PM by Beefcake
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Isn't this just obvious to everyone by now. Opium production is at an all time high after the occupation how is that even possible without and
enabling occupying force.
I heard a general say that if they stop the production they will lose the support of important allies in the south.
Well I'm sorry buddy what is the point of even being there if you let them mass produce narcotics that get out to the rest of the world kill millions
and fund even more deaths through other means.
Listen the CIA, MI-6, Mossad all the international intelligence agencies are drug dealers. It is a massive black market product and the banks love it
because they launder the profits and when you tabulate the interest off the money that moves through the banks from drugs the value of drug dealing
explodes into the trillions.
This is why the elite love this war in Afghanistan it is a cash cow.
I can't believe there are some who actually think we are there to liberate the women from oppression
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:21 PM by PenandSword
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Originally posted by Rigel Kent
Originally posted by groingrinder
Great Avian Flu Avatar!! I totally agree with this post. The war on drugs is a two headed dragon fighting itself. Job security baby!! George Bush
Sr as CIA head was the biggest drug dealer America has ever known.
Yeah right on Groingrinder,
You should also look into Bill Clintons activities when he was governor of Arkansaas and big buddy of George Senior.
effin scumbags,
PEACE,
RK
Mena Airport, right? If people only knew the truth, they'd be in shock, then total fury. A fury would erupt not seen since the American Revolution
and the scavengers would run to the hills or their underground bunkers.
This is world wide by the way. Every single government is involved. You want to laugh? The CIA and KGB/FSB are the biggest drug dealers in America.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:25 PM by PenandSword
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Originally posted by Walkswithfish
Originally posted by Dramey
seems a lot of drug threads are popping up lately, but also seems certain ones are being censored less then others, interesting another thread up on
the main page dealing with drugs, yet other pages are taken down instantly
interesting stance taken by ats
Maybe they haven't seen this one yet?
But then again, it does involve a very real conspiracy...A conspiracy so dangerous that it would quite possibly be in the best interests of ATS and
various government agencies to have this thread removed, censored and erased, deleted, trashed or whatever before it has an "opportunity" to explore
that conspiracy further.
Yes, but it is not a conspiracy. It is the truth. The story is so shocking and huge, that if Hollywood were to make a movie, it would need 10 parts,
and believe me, the amount of money they could make off the story would dwarf Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Indian Jones combined!
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:29 PM by PenandSword
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Originally posted by ANNED
a friend back when i was in the navy was a NCIS agent and he caught a many CONTRACT CIA agents supplementing there CIA pay with drugs.
some of these contract agents were military working off the books(whitewashed CIA paramilitary troops) for the CIA and still getting service time for
military retirement as CIA blackops.
if he caught them the CIA would do little to them other then transfer them someplace else.
but there military branch would try to throw the book at them when there no longer worked for the CIA.
but this seldom worked as the CIA would classifie everything top secret and would not allow ANYTHING these contract personal did for the CIA to be
used in a court martial.
Once in a while one of these contract agents would brag about how they could get away with anything while working for the CIA even smuggling drugs to
line there own pockets while working for the CIA.
He got some of these people on tape saying they were not smuggling for the CIA but to line there own pockets.
These people were later court marshaled by there military branch when the CIA no longer needed them and lost all there military benefits
Then the CIA ether told these people tough luck.
Or got the court marial records sealed and paid these people a small CIA retirement.
Or lastly some the CIA gave new identities and paid them a retirement.
But the military when possible got rid of all there people that were working for the CIA when they got caught smuggling drugs.
But this NCIS agent said that almost all the CIA people were breaking the laws by smuggling something, Many times things other then drugs.
antiquities, gems, weapons, ECT ECT,
It seamed to be that the CIA personal all supplemented there incomes and believed that the laws did not apply to them. only a few smuggled drugs.
They weren't supplementing their incomes....that was their job. They say that for plausible deniability if they get caught. Don't forget, the CIA
is above the law thanks to certain laws and order that were passed. If they happen to get caught, they have their freemasonic friends in high places
to get them off.
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