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Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Jordan River
this statement in particular prompted me to add you to my foes list. From the Is the Rapture coming thread.
My target is on the atheist and your agendas online. All you do is try to crush faith through logic
simply because I believe if there is a God logic would be a method to find Him not to defeat him, so deriding atheists for using logic seems silly. Science and logic should not be enemies of God, if he is real they would only make him more apparent. Don't take it personally I add people to my foes list on impulse based on sometimes just a few sentences and in fact several foes that used to be on my list ended up being my friends...
I have not given up on spirituality or the idea of God entirely. I consider myself an agnostic. I think if God exists it is not in the way we think of him or assume him to exist, human perception of God, laid out in religion, is flawed.
Be assured that if God had revealed himself to me back when I was a Christian I would still be a believer regardless of the "Sways of man". But no such Revelation has taken place and until it does, or until science verifies God, I remain an agnostic more or less shrugging my shoulders but at the same time trying to free people's minds from the prison bars of religion that hold them back.
[edit on 4-12-2009 by Titen-Sxull]
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by troubleshooter
You clearly believe the book of Enoch version of things. Enoch and other books have always bothered me and bolstered my belief that the Bible was incomplete and therefore imperfect. Did they leave it out to hide the truth? Or was more a marketing ploy by the makers of the Bible?
Anyway thanks for taking the time to respond, much of what you said makes sense but in the end I'm not sure how much we can really learn from a book with as many flaws as the Bible has, there is wisdom there but how much nonsense does one have to wade through to find it.