Are we simply witnessing the most influential humans murdered by assassins from the future?, page 1
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 12:27 AM by Bored To Tears
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Are you suggesting that Kurt Cobain, the over rated singer and guitarist from Nirvana was one of our most influential human beings?

You are also suggesting that he rated high enough on the John Conner scale to have a terminator sent from the future and stage a suicide?


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 12:31 AM by chiron613
I'm voting no on this one. First, I think that someone coming back from the future to kill someone introduces a time paradox. It's something like the grandfather paradox, but not quite as strong.

The grandfather paradox asks what would happen if a time traveler were to go back in time and kill his own grandfather before he had any kids. If he did that, then his father never would have been born, and neither would the time traveler. So the traveler couldn't have gone back in time to kill the grandfather, who would therefore have kids, and so on. How is such a thing possible?

So OK, the paradox with assassinating some major player is, you kill that person, and prevent him from making the changes that the future didn't like. Fine. Now, that situation didn't arise, because you killed the person who was going to mae those changes. Since they never happened, no one in the future has any reason to go back and kill the guy; so the guy survives and does whatever it was the future wanted to stop.

I understand that there is some question about Coblain's death, but to my understanding, it was mostly expressed by his widow. Denial is a fairly common reaction to a suicide. You can't believe they'd do it, they had so much to live for, why didn't they come to me - must be murder.

People in Coblain's situation - highly popular, access to drugs, lots of money - often wind up dying of overdoses or suicide. It's an occupational hazard. It's lonely up there at the top, when you can never tell your friends from people who just want to bask in your light, where you've got tons of people just being parasites on you. There's a lot of betrayal and heartache that goes along with the fame and wealth. You find out that money really can't buy happiness, and once you know that, you really don't know where to turn if you're still unhappy or feel empty. Drugs, suicide, mental illness, all are pitfalls of fame.

Well, OK, maybe it was murder after all. Just because it looks like suicide, doesn't mean it has to be. Someone drugged the guy, then put the shotgun under his chin and pullted the trigger, using his finger so there'd be "proof" it was Coblain who did it. Wouldn't be that hard to do. So let's go with the assassination.

Why would it have to be from the future? If Coblain were such a mover and shaker, about to start something big, why wouldn't some contemporary PTB's just go ahead and do it, in order to prevent it? Now you don't need any futuristic technology we don't know is possible; you don't get that time paradox; and you get almost the same result.

Without more evidence, you've got to figure Occam's Razor. When given a choice, pick the simplest explanation that covers all the known facts. Don't complicate things until the facts require a different explanation.


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 02:21 AM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Because maybe they let Hitler and Stalin come to power to fulfill a New World Order agenda?

But no I don't know anything...


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 02:42 AM by Finder
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because without hitler, we wouldn't have the worldwide "Rule," or whatever they call it, that we can't use atomic bombs.
ANOTHER point about hitler is that we wouldnt have lots of modern day medicine. (thanks to "Dr. Death's" experiments during WW2 in the death camps that HITLER made.)
I rest my case


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