Is Obama’s comment Asking Moms to Return to School sexist or just discriminatory?

Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by Flighty

 

Well since the government does not have any money, except borrowed, stolen, or printed maybe they shouldn't give these types of programs to anyone.

The bailout money has to be paid back over the 10 years or so, somehow.
The more taxpayers they have in the pool contributing the better.
If they see a huge untapped group of people who they feel could make a huge contribution in the future, they'll target them.

Not saying I agree with it entirely, but I can see the logic in it.

Originally posted by LostNemesis
reply to post by Beefcake

 

Lol It feels like you have re-phrased my theory, in many less words.

Glad not everyone will think I am insane, then.

HAHA i didn't mean to sorry bout that i actually just read your post now and it looks like i did. We are right though i have read education white papers saying that the "family" is bad so Obama preaching this makes perfect sense.

Dissolve the family unit the child is theirs

Someone I agree with, 100%.

Ya speak out against anything Obama does, and you run the risk of being called Racist. Speak out against the NWO's annihilation of the family unit, and you are Sexist.

Lol

Just to clarify, this has been many years in the works, way before Obama.

reply to post by Violater1


Where is your link? I haven't even seen a direct quote.
How anyone can even comment on it without seeing the quote is beyond me, yet we have 2 pages of argument ...

:shk:

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Well….I guess if you live in the center of Bologna, and don’t have TV or cable news, you would have missed it.
It must not have been a big thing to NBC, CBS, ABC, or CNN, because after it was aired, it wasn’t mentioned again.
Here is my 0.36 second search on Google.

www.onlinedegreeelearning.com...

www.garysworldusa.com...

Originally posted by Violater1
Well….I guess if you live in the center of Bologna, and don’t have TV or cable news, you would have missed it.

What kind of remark is that?

As the thread originator, it's YOUR responsibility to post a link to show us all what you're talking about. You didn't even include the quote from Obama, just expected us all to be sitting around the TV the same time you were.

Here is my 0.36 second search on Google.

And neither of them have Obama's quote. I searched for it, too and find nothing.

I have better things to do than do your research for you.

Originally posted by iamoverrated
I think he meant he wants everyone to return to school...

If he meant everyone, he should've said everyone, but he didn't. He asked moms in particular. It sounds like he found a demographic that wasn't making enough money (which means more government taxes) and was 'encouraging' them to pay taxes...er...fulfill their dreams. My question is, what if it's your dream to be a mother who spends her time ensuring her child grows up in a close-family environment?

[edit on 5-11-2009 by saint4God]

Nothing like using education and the economy as a wedge from preventing mothers from raising their children and instilling some values in them. But since this guy is preaching to a bunch of mindless idiots, they will see it as some wonderful opportunity to help the intellectually oppressed.

If it was 30 years ago, few if any would have questioned the logic behind his statement. The dude needs to get with the times already and stop using trite talking points to promote his transparent agenda.

The idea is to break down the family cause everyone knows that without Mom there is no family unit. The second is to turn women into socialist commie robots that work and serve Obama. It makes me sick. No other job or dedication comes close to that of being "Mom". Mothers are so diminished by society. What a shame...

reply to post by HotSauce


Being a straight white male has done me more good then harm. Sure didn't close doors in my face. Maybe you should have said "Loser Straight White Males". I've come across a lot of those in my lifetime.

Lol. Your title might just as well have been "Is Obama horrible or he is terrible?"

Perhaps.....he has advisors who did studies and identified a population in need. Maybe statistics turned up this group. If a homosexual had adopted a child and applied for the assistance, he might not be denied based on his gender.

We just don't know the variables, but we do know there are lots and lots of Moms on Welfare and receiving public assistance in one way or another, and most of us would like for them to become independent at some point, and end the generational poverty and dependence.

So maybe it is neither "horrible" or "terrible". Maybe it is a simple response/proposal to an identified need.

I've never heard Obama actually say that he wants moms to go back to school, but I am bombarded with ads both on Facebook and AOL with that slogan. What's so strange to me about the ads is that they never show women reading textbooks or working at a computer, they all show them performing strenuous exercises. Bizarre!

Has anyone seen these ads besides me?

I'm not sure what obama's motives were as far as "moms" going back to school. but, well, hasn't alot of people on these boards been saying basically the same thing....go back to school, so you can get a higher paying job??
my question is still that same...
okay, I am the "mom" working at your favorite grocery store for $8 bucks and hours. And that $8 an hours isn't providing my family's needs...
now, if I go out and get myself educated, does that mean you no longer need anyone at the store earning $8 an hour. What about the person they replace all those "moms" with at the store. is that $8 bucks gonna provide for their family's needs???

it's just a ploy!!! your gonna aways want a cashier to check out your groceries at the store, and they don't want to pay that cashier enough to live on, you don't want to pay more for your groceries, so that that cashier can earn enough to live on. so, we all pay more taxes, so that cashier can keep themselves and their family alive, so you can have that cashier check out your cheap groceries@!!!
it's just easier for them to encourage everyone to go get an education (imagine what would happen if we all took their advice!!!). than it is to address the real issue. far too many of our jobs pay way too little!!! which is making our taxes way too high!!!

[edit on 5-11-2009 by dawnstar]

reply to post by Beefcake


I think you're looking a little too hard into the issue. So let me get this straight...these women lose out on a career to raise children, then what happens when these children grow up and no longer need adult supervision? They end up with a lot of free time and no formal education, thus they can't get a decent job.
Am i to assume that you think that teaching children proper grammar, mathematics, a foreign language and social studies BRAINWASHING? I guess I've been brainwashed to think critically and be a snobbish elitist. I guess my teachers were always right, education is a luxury, good thing i actually took advantage of it...

And I still don't see a quote from Obama... I did find that he's offering scholarships for moms who WANT to go back to school, but people are spinning this to be something it's not. (Oooh! There's a new one!)

He actually promised that he would make these grants available to moms who WANT to return to school. So, this is yet again, one of his campaign promises being fulfilled and people are twisting it to be something bad about him. I guess if you can't find anything really bad, and you just NEED to rag on Obama, you have to make things up.

It's for Fathers, too!

The scholarship plan is very well devised and focuses on the education of both fathers and mothers and the grant requirements are fairly simple and easy to apply for. Since the start of his tenure, President Obama has emphasized on bringing the change in American ideology and help them prosper once gain out of ongoing recession since a couple of years. In order to make that change, the Obama Administration came up with the plan to educate America and to make sure the strategy works, it has specifically targeted American household game runners; the parents.

Since the education can lead to more success and better lifestyle of an American Family, the scholarship applies to the American mothers who can get the education they always wanted and grow in to become professional working individuals while supporting their families financially as well. This way, with more and more getting the motivation to become more specialized and skilled individuals, the economy would progress by itself in that it would be run by people who know their role.

The grants pay up to 10,000 dollars every year to each individual as per the stipulation of the scholarship plan and the requirements are simple.

How terrible that he would offer a $10,000 per year scholarship so people in this country can get a higher education and have a better lifestyle and help improve the economy and jobs situation! What a jerk he is!



Another Campaign Promise fulfilled!

what the hell is wrong with getting an education?

he doesn't mean abandon your kids and leave your house to turn to crap. If you can't understand that, you NEED to go back to school.