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Ron Paul:Be Prepared for the Worst

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posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:24 PM
reply to post by crimvelvet

They gave large amounts of money to some of the better known universities in America; they created newly formed departments of economics with that money; they hand picked their own people to be the professors to head up those departments and then those professors with all of their academic credentials gave speeches and wrote scholarly essays extolling the virtues of the Federal Reserve System.

That describes not only the economics/business departments, but virtually every discipline in Academia. I know, because I encountered it during my years in Academia. It was a constant battle dealing with the "colleagues" who taught straight from the hand-picked textbooks, without even understanding what they were teaching, and that much of what they taught made no sense at all. However, it was the golden rule-those who have the gold make the rules.

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:43 PM
reply to post by Crane4

Having said that, if we weren't so dependent on the city structure a collapse of it would be a very small deal.

May I suggest you read History, HACCP and the Food Safety Con Job It explains the planned and intentional destruction of American farmers and rural communities by the Council of Economic Development.

The article is well written and explains a lot about how we went from self sufficient rural communities to rudderless, overcrowded, psychotic city dwellers with no extended support systems.

V. Lenin, the founder of the Russian revolution stated

The Socialist Revolution in the US cannot take place because there are too many small independent farmers there. Those people are the stability factor. We here in Russia must hurry while our government is stupid enough to not encourage and support the independent farmership.'

And in 1934,Assistant Secretary of Agriculture Rexford Tugwell stated "[Our] future is becoming visible in Russia."

I am sure the destruction of the fabric of US life was done intentionally to make us more vunerable to manipulation. I remember the 1950's You could leave your door unlocked, there were no drugs in grade school and if a family fell on hard times everyone pitched in and helped.

Contrast that to the eighties when myself and my neighbors on either side had break ins and one women was raped, tires were slashed on another neighbor's car and the guy down the street was a serial killer. Neighbors did not help each other, they didn't even bother to say hi and this was a decent neighborhood of professional type families.

Or consider where I live now in the middle of nowhere on a hundred acres. There are three known drug dealers on the road, a murderer and at least twelve of my so call friends turned out to be thieves and con artists.

I do not blame the American people for this I blame the Council for Economic Development for intentionally destroying American communities leaving people without the support system necessary for good mental health and crowding them into unhealthy cities.

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 06:51 PM
reply to post by Advancedboy

I voted Ron Paul and I agree with what you say. Our schools were dumbed down and that is why I am very worried about our chances of recovering. We just do not have the educational background to do it any more.

"For 10 years, William Schmidt, a statistics professor at Michigan State University, has looked at how U.S. students stack up against students in other countries in math and science. "In fourth-grade, we start out pretty well, near the top of the distribution among countries; by eighth-grade, we're around average, and by 12th-grade, we're at the bottom of the heap, outperforming only two countries, Cyprus and South Africa."

Is it any wonder Corporations now import workers from other countries?

... Surveys of corporations consistently find that businesses are focused outside • the U.S. to recruit necessary talent. In a 2002 survey, 16 global corporations complained that American schools did not produce students with global skills. United States companies agreed. The survey found that 30 percent of large U.S. companies “believed they had failed to exploit fully their international business opportunities due to insufficient personnel with international skills.” One respondent to the survey even noted, “If I wanted to recruit people who are both technically skilled and culturally aware, I wouldn’t even waste time looking for them on U.S. college campuses.”

...the U.S. ranks 21st out of 29 Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries in mathematics scores, with nearly one-quarter of students unable to solve the easiest level of questions....In 2000, 28 percent of all freshmen entering a degree-granting institution required remedial coursework

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 08:45 PM
I love Ron Paul, he's such a great man.
And yes I think we should all prepare for the worst. I may begin to start stacking up on canned goods and gallons of water because it's gonna get dirty. At least the population in 1929 was nowhere near as big as the population in America here at this moment. Take however dramatic it was seventy years ago, and quadrupal it. Mass riots, murders, theives, the whole shebang. In my opinion, becoming ready and becoming armed, is of major importante. What will happen with the money junkies run out of money to get their high off of? What happens when stock brokers become broke because of stocks? Who do we call when the government can't afford local policemen? Who then do we trust, care for, run from? - The questions won't end. And just because some may believe that the recession is over with, remember just a year ago, being in a recession was a 'ridiculous' idea, doesn't mean it is over with.

Kiss the ground you walk on now because in three years, you'll be wishing you had. I love you all, and I really hope it turns out for the best. But we have to prepare. We cannot give in to our tv screens and sit back as most people will do and let it work itself out on it's own. It's not going to work out - there are people out there who are higher up and have much more power concerning the state of our governemnt. I think it's time me and the hippies leave the country and start our own peace nation made of tree leaves and bonfires.

Ich Liebe Dich Alle

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 09:35 PM
reply to post by ConMi27

And just because some may believe that the recession is over with, remember just a year ago, being in a recession was a 'ridiculous' idea, doesn't mean it is over with.

True. Remember, FDR declared the Depression over, only to have it continue for years. Only WWII brought us out of the Depression.
Obama continues to make the same mistakes that FDR made.

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:02 PM

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

Remember, FDR declared the Depression over, only to have it continue for years. Only WWII brought us out of the Depression.
Obama continues to make the same mistakes that FDR made.

It's funny...I think in a very real sense we are still "recovering" from the depression of the 30s. As you noted, the only thing that brought us out was WWII. Once WWII was over, to keep the economy growing, we've had a string of wars...Korea, Vietnam, Gulf I and II, not to mention all the other little adventures the CIA and the Pentagon has cooked up over the years, from Guatamala and Panama to Laos and Uzbekistan. And even in our rare interludes of "peace," you've still got zillions of military contractors bellying up to the trough so they can sell sets of socket wrenches for $900 a pop or what have you.

Our economy has been on a military footing pretty much continuously since WWII, which is a response to the ongoing threat of underlying structural fiscal weakness. Of course there are other serious factors involved (industrial hollowing out, financialization, etc.), but "permanent war" is a big part of what makes America what it is.

The problem now is the strategy has been stretched so thin that even with a full-on two-front war running 6 years now, the economy is still on the brink of disaster.

I remember saying when Obama was elected that he would never, ever pull out of the Middle East unless there was total financial armegeddon in the US along Soviet-collapse-style lines. This is not purely for economic reaons -- geopolitically, the moment the US leaves the power vaccum will be filled by India, China, and/or Russia -- but keeping the economy at manic overdrive via miltary spending will continue to be a keystone US principle until the day it is literally no longer possible at any cost, regardless of which sock puppet happens to be sitting in the oval office.

[edit on 11/3/09 by silent thunder]

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:07 PM
reply to post by m khan

I believe that sooner or later, the facts of daily despair, and economic ruin will be so obvious, that many people will have a collective "aha" moment at the same time. The collective understanding is coming real soon. We keep saying things can't go on as they are now,much longer, but things keep hanging on.
When the sky does finally fall, the United States might not be a good place to live. When the majority of citizens finally lose everything, and figure out who's to blame, then the fun starts. Watch out, the bad times are coming--I mean the real bad times.

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:10 PM
reply to post by silent thunder

I agree with much of your analysis. The problem that Obama has, in making a decision on Afghanistan, is that he is now backed into a corner of his own making. He promised his supporters that he would scale down military operations. However, not only does a withdrawal look weak, but the bigger factor is that many of his LARGE Corporate supporters rely on war for the huge contracts that they acquire.
In addition, bringing home troops, adds to the unemployment. Keeping them enlisted prevents the unemployment numbers from getting even worse than they are now.
Catch-22 of his own making!

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:39 PM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

Not only would bringing the troops home put an additional block into the unemployment box, but think of all those independent contractors - Triple Canopy, Xe, and others would also be unemployed.

Nothing like a bunch of pissed-off ex-soldiers and ex-mercenaries running around.

Come to think of it, that could really work out well . . . for the productive members of the American people.

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:42 PM

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

Not only would bringing the troops home put an additional block into the unemployment box, but think of all those independent contractors - Triple Canopy, Xe, and others would also be unemployed.

Nothing like a bunch of pissed-off ex-soldiers and ex-mercenaries running around.

Come to think of it, that could really work out well . . . for the productive members of the American people.

Dooper my good man, I am surprised at you!

There is always a war on somewhere! Have gun will travel. Those guys will have steady paychecks from now to doomsday!

It's the rest of us that have to worry!

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:48 PM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

My friend Proto!

Oh how I long for the days of the warrior class.

No BS. No political correctness. No years of appeals. No pansies running things. And a code of honor among courageous men.

Those truly were the days.


(You didn't think this was my first time around, did you?)

posted on Nov, 3 2009 @ 10:52 PM
reply to post by dooper

Honor is dead Dooper we live in a world of lying politicians, lying bankers, lying lawyers, and lying cops.

The few people left with real honor are betrayed at every turn by those with out it.

Honor of course starts with honoring one's self and these days it seems like everyone just wants to roll over and say no don't bother with the vasseline, I am used to taking it!

Ah the good old days Dooper.

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 06:42 AM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

In addition, bringing home troops, adds to the unemployment. Keeping them enlisted prevents the unemployment numbers from getting even worse than they are now.

There is another reason to keep the troops overseas that you missed.

As was said above, people are waking up and The Creature from Jekyll Island is selling like hot cakes.

"My wife manages a large main library and told me there are over 37 people on the waiting list for The Creature from Jekyll Island. Branch libraries have similar reservations." - Stan

G. Edward Griffin now has a blog called the Reality Zone and a news service called Unfiltered News "News without propaganda. Political correctness not spoken here."

On the state level there is The 10th Amendment Movement and Nullification Efforts where “state sovereignty resolutions” are being introduced as well as Federal law Nullification where "a state ‘nullifies’ a federal law, by proclaiming that the law in question is void and inoperative, or ‘non-effective,’ within the boundaries of that state; or, in other words, not a law as far as that state is concerned."

Another of the state movements is the Bring the Guard Home Movement

Under the Constitution, the militia (now called the National Guard) may only be called into duty by the federal government in three specific situations. According to Article I, Section 8; Clause 15, the Congress is given the power to pass laws for “calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.” The militia was intended by the Founders and Ratifiers to be defense force and nothing more. Deployments outside the country were not considered, and neither were internal deployments in pursuance of powers that were not delegated to the federal government. Congress has passed numerous laws in the past 100 years giving the federal government additional authority not mentioned in the Constitution. But, without amendment, altering the enumerated powers by legislative fiat is, in and of itself, unconstitutional. Campaigns in states around the country are working to reassert the authority of governors over guard troops.


A recent customer, former Secret Service, told me Homeland Security is now so nervous that all former members of the military, Secret Service, CIA and FBI are now on the "Homegrown Terrorist" watch list! And as reported elsewhere gun and Amo sales have sky rocketed

Do you really think TPTB want to add trained combat troops, without jobs, to the above threat to their powers???

Getting those volatile testostrone driven young men out of the country so an overthrow of those in power is less likely is another reason for war during bad economic times.

In 1933, Congressman McFadden introduced House Resolution No. 158, Articles of Impeachment for the Secretary of the Treasury, two assistant Secretaries of the Treasury, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, and the officers and directors of its twelve regional banks. Subsequently he was shot at twice, poisoned so he reportedly "heart-failure sudden-death" on Oct. 3, 1936, after a "dose" of "intestinal flu,"on Oct. 3, 1936. So TPTB got rid of him as a focus but they still need to divert those who had heard him.

Here is part of McFadden's speech

"Mr. Chairman, the United States is bankrupt: It has been bankrupted by the corrupt and dishonest Fed. It has repudiated its debts to its own citizens. Its chief foreign creditor is Great Britain, and a British bailiff has been at the White House and the British Agents are in the United States Treasurymaking inventory arranging terms of liquidations!..."Mr. Chairman, the Fed has offered to collect the British claims in full from the American public by trickery and corruption, if Great Britain will help to conceal its crimes. The British are shielding their agents, the Fed,...

“The Fed Note is essentially unsound. It is the worst currency and the most dangerous that this Country has ever known... They should not have made the Government [liable on the private] debts of individuals and corporations, and, least of all, on the private debts of foreigners.”

So what happened? Within 34 hr of becoming President Roosevelt closed the doors on every bank –
And then Confiscation private citizens Gold to pay the debts of the Federal Reserve: first passing the Emergency Banking Relief Act of 1933 on March 9, 1933

Sec. 3. Section 11 of the Federal Reserve Act is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:
''(n) Whenever in the judgment of the Secretary of the Treasury such action is necessary to protect the currency system of the United States, the Secretary of the Treasury, in his discretion, may require any or all individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations to pay and deliver to the Treasurer of the United States any or all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates owned by such individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations....

Then Roosevelt confiscated the gold through an executive order on April 5th 1933
Executive Order 6102: 
"Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve Bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933"

I guess Roosevelt then had a change of heart and slipped his lease because "in the summer of 1933, shortly after Roosevelt's "First 100 Days," America's richest businessmen were in a panic, and attempted to recruit General Smedley Butler to lead the coup" called the BUSINESS PLOT

Paul Warburg who was forever the master strategist, was dead by 1932. Warburg's son James Warburg was financial adviser to Franklin D. Roosevelt in the first years of his presidency but Warburg left government in 1934, having come to oppose certain policies of the New Deal. James Warburg gained some notoriety for stating: "We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." (Feb. 17, 1950, to the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations)[1]

Was the Business plot a brilliant strategy move to make Roosevelt look good/ scare him back into line or was it for real? TPTB certainly had no problem removing other presidents who opposed them. Nine American Presidents have been the targets of assassination The latest was Ron Paul, just a few short weeks after he had assure his supporters he was in the Presidential race to the end, he abruptly quit a couple of days after the Bildeburgers met. An earlier report by Dan Estulin alleged the Bildeburgers were considering getting rid of Ron Paul.

A House committee heard of the plot and held hearings., and the House committee did, corroborate the essentials of the story, however MacGuire and Clark are the only ones who can be tied to the "plot" and Roosevelt never "was assassinated by a lone gunman"
Remember the "Bonus Army" had already marched on Washington in June of 1932 so a setup would be believed.

Roosevelt was behind the infamous Commerce Clause
After Wickard v. Filburn "everything is mere detail.... Under this maximum commerce power, the [federal] government has been free to regulate nearly everything... The Court has held that if Congress sees a connection to interstate commerce, it is not its role to second guess.

I think Roosevelt ended up toeing the line and remained a puppet to the Banksters but with a different handler than James Warburg.

Sorry for the ramble but threads wander all over when you start following them.

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 01:48 PM
reply to post by crimvelvet

Actually, I've posted the details of the Business Plot on my of my threads. I didn't bring it up here, because I believe that most of the members on this thread are familiar with it. Your post though, is a great summary of the lead-up to that point in history, and as I've stated many times before, I believe we could have a coup of some sort, if things continue the way they are.
Here is a recent thread of mine where I talk about a possible coup, and mention the business plot:

Will Dems attempt to ram through Health Care Bill Cause a coup d'état?
posted on 19-8-2009

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 02:05 PM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

The government is a symptom of a disease Professor the Corporations are the Disease. One never ending spider web of deeply entrenched international corporations that ultimately lead to just a hand full of the actual preferred stock holders that own them and comprise a huge illegal monopoly on our transportation, banking, energy and food system.

They have a stranglehold that remains after the government falls. Whether anyone or any group of people can overcome that strangle hold even it they were uncorruptable remains to be seen.

A flick of their switches and every computer throughout the land goes dark and the lights along with them! Food shipments cease to roll, major retailers cease to open, all the conveniences of life that make big city living stop and even if we can tough it out we are left with nothing but worthless paper currency and a stack of bills and contractual obligations that could sink the Titanic.

In fact they more or less have.

Changing the government will be the easy part compared to changing the corporations and dealing with our international creditors!

I look forward to dying in the struggle! Boy do I look forward to it!

What a mess!

[edit on 4/11/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

[edit on 4/11/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 02:11 PM
It's one thing for a few to manipulate things from above as long as most people are more or less happy with their own little pile. After all, when things are good, no one notices the gentle nudging behind the scenes.

The problem comes when the bulk of the population become UNHAPPY with their little pile, especially when it's trickling right through their fingers, and then the taxman is dipping in with both hands.

Add a whole lot of unemployed, or underemployed, disgruntled folks, and you have an overall angry population.

A slow-burning, seething anger bordering on rage in the general population is the equivalent of a gas leak.

All it takes is one little spark and there's not going to be any controlled oxidation. It will be an explosion, an explosion that will burn the structure to the ground, including those controls that were built into the foundation.

Those who the gods would destroy, first he makes mad.

Look at our leaders. They've truly gone mad. Up is down, left is right, right is wrong, good is bad, evil is good, borrow to save.

Come January, right after the holiday season, we'll see our second crash. As cold reality is embraced by the bitter temperatures of a January wet slap in the face, we'll see ourselves really knocked down.

We're cold, turned the heat up, it's not working - because of the gas leak.

And that will be the time to fear sparks.

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 02:36 PM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

The government is a symptom of a disease Professor the Corporations are the Disease.

Good point, my friend. Another way of putting it is that the corporations are the disease, and the politicians are the carriers of the disease. They are the faithful followers who facilitate and spread that disease into EVERY ASPECT of our lives. There is no aspect that escapes their notice- health care, banking, stocks, retail, wholesale, import, export, and services. The ultimate goal is the infection of every single segment of the economy with their sickness, and socialism is the agent that will spread this disease. In fact, more appropriately, it might be better to call it fascism, as it is the encasement of government and corporations into one huge mass.

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 07:39 PM

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by reasonable

What he always proposes is not realistic and essentially would result in total collapse + opportunity to rebuild from the ashes.

Well, that may or may not be true now. However, if they had started listening to him years ago, perhaps we wouldn't be in that mess now. At some point, even the best doctor may not be able to save the patient.
Does the US have terminal cancer?

Been a believer in Ron Paul since about 1980, the only politician I have ever sent money to.

He's been talking the talk, then walking the walk the best he can since that time and with Peter Schiff as his economic advisor, anyone who does not pay attention to this duo will get more than they deserve when all hell breaks loose.

He a diehard believer in Austrian Economics (Ludwig Von Mises Institute) versus the Keynesian Economics fraud instituted by the Rothchilds/Rockefeller and their Federal Reserve which through its intrusion and manipulation of the business cycle has looted and destroyed the America of "We the people".

Ron Paul and Peter Schiff deserve a standing ovation for trying to awaken the people to what lies ahead. I think it's too late as all the money created through fractional banking is most likely in the hands of the elite and the original dollar is worth almost nothing.

PROFESSOR, what an outstanding thread. Kudos to you.

Dooper, same for you as you usually hit the nail on the head with minimal verbiage. Sure hope folks are listening to you two.

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:47 PM
reply to post by Oldnslo

PROFESSOR, what an outstanding thread. Kudos to you.

Thank you. You also walk the walk and talk the talk. It's too bad there aren't more believers like you. We might not have been in this mess.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 10:35 AM
Its a tragic situation for the whole world really..Lady Liberty is mortally wounded
When a nation backs off from the Bible - God backs off from the Nation

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