Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Are you perhaps subtley implying.

No, I wasnt.

But this reminds me of something else extreme-paranoids do (not you!) which is to constantly imply that something "means" something other or that what is said has a deeper or secret meaning.

Oftentimes Im perplexed by this on ATS. I will innocently write something up without thinking much about it and suddenly be met by a storm of outrage and indignation and implications of a secret agenda of my post, etc.

This thread is patronizing and obnoxious so i figure something embarrassing or upsetting happened to the op that made him angry so he is lashing out here pretending to be jovial. Maybe he just got dumped or owned in public and humiliated so he is flexing his epeen to build his confidence.

I liken your activity to a person who makes ufo hoax videos for laughs its a very odd behavior and could warrant psychological analysis but you sounds a little sadistic so good luck with your future endeavors and i hope you find fulfillment something other than conning people

Originally posted by Skyfloating
But this reminds me of something else extreme-paranoids do (not you!)

I'm suspicious of your exclusion of me. I think it's to bring doubt on ATS as to the absolute absoluteness of my paranoia! Did the CIA put you up to this? Are you trying to harm my reputation?



Most could only wish anyone cared about them that much. Maybe some sort of parental neglect or subtle but protracted abuse plays a role?

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Most could only wish anyone cared about them that much. Maybe some sort of parental neglect or subtle but protracted abuse plays a role?

The biggest and most horrifying !!!smoking gun disclosure!!! some conspiracy-theorists have yet to face is how their own shortcomings are psychologically projected out into the world in the form of hatred-of-authority, fear-of-authority, etc.

I personally know a conspiracy-theorist who is afraid to go to the dentist because he read that dentists implant mind-control devices. As a consequence his teeth are rotting.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
I personally know a conspiracy-theorist who is afraid to go to the dentist because he read that dentists implant mind-control devices. As a consequence his teeth are rotting.

You sure we don't know the same guy? The one I knew that was like that was a psychologist.

Most people have a very hard time communicating vividly and lucidly and to say what they mean and mean what they say.

Sometimes this is an educational problem and sometimes this is a peer pressure problem as some people fear revealing too much of their inner thoughts, hopes and fears will result in people rejecting them and not validating what they have said.

Conversely it is said it takes one to know one and I think rational people posting to the thread have already concluded that Skyfloating as a Mason and some other Masons are suffering from paranoia that there is some vast conspiracy out to ahem ‘get them’.

Whether ‘notions’ of this ‘conspiracy’ against the Masons is simply something instilled in the Masons as a means to keep people in the ‘cult’ for ‘protection’ purposes or is a unique modality underpinning a singular psychosis that is prevalent amongst individuals likely to join cults is hard to determine without being a cultist myself.

I though see the Original Post for what it is…a cry for help from someone suffering from paranoid feelings that others are out to get them and a cult that they belong too.

In my humble opinion this calls for empathy and compassion and not denunciation or scorn as we all now have an opportunity to see this paranoia at work and to reassure them that there is no conspiracy to ‘get the Masons’.

This is our opportunity for those so suffering in the cult and crying out for help in this fashion to welcome them warmly with open arms back into mainstream society where they will never have to fear these things in irrational ways again.

Some of them have convinced themselves this conspiracy against them is real and might say things like “But I am not a lizard” just be patient and understanding and say I know, I know, how about we go to the park and relax on the rocks in the sun for a while and talk about it. Let them get it off their chest and show them you have the empathy to care.

We have seen the damage cults like Heavens Gates can do upon their members and their deadly consequences.

It’s important to understand that the first thing people in a cult will say is “It’s not a cult” once again just say I know, I know. The important thing is to not agitate them and worsen the psychosis.

In time we can help these people who think the “world is out to get them” won’t you give it a try?

Let’s stop picking on Sky for suffering paranoia and start reassuring him instead he need not live his life in fear!

Skyfloating, it will be alright, no one is out to get you!


[edit on 3/11/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

I don't know about 'suckering' but I will say that we Freemasons have no need for "male enhancement products" if ya know what I mean.. wink.. wink..

Also every new member gets five bars of pure Latinum and a gallon of Romulan ale.

Originally posted by emsed1
Also every new member gets...a gallon of Romulan ale.

Everytime I drink that stuff I have a serious compulsion to make out with green-skinned chicks.

Havent completely done it, but once I almost convinced a guy that he didnt actually exist

Sorry thought this post would be more than one line

[edit on 3/11/2009 by OzWeatherman]

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Most could only wish anyone cared about them that much. Maybe some sort of parental neglect or subtle but protracted abuse plays a role?

The biggest and most horrifying !!!smoking gun disclosure!!! some conspiracy-theorists have yet to face is how their own shortcomings are psychologically projected out into the world in the form of hatred-of-authority, fear-of-authority, etc.

I personally know a conspiracy-theorist who is afraid to go to the dentist because he read that dentists implant mind-control devices. As a consequence his teeth are rotting.

While the situation you mentioned is bizarre, surely you don't mean to say that all hatred and fear towards any authority is unjustified, correct? I think history has proven otherwise.

No society is entirely just. Agreed; however some societies become so corrupted over time, that the hatred and/or fear displayed can become founded in rationality. No?

[edit on 5-11-2009 by unityemissions]

Originally posted by unityemissions
While the situation you mentioned is bizarre, surely you don't mean to say that all hatred and fear towards any authority is unjustified, correct? I think history has proven otherwise.

Hatred is a destructive emotion. Questioning/Suspicion of Authority is justified, certainly.

But a lot of people are not only questioning some authority sometimes but actively slandering all authority all the time. Can you see the problem inherent in that?