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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:01 AM by dickbar
reply to post by MajorDisaster



seriously... i came back from Lviv (western Ukraine) last Tuesday after visting some freinds and I passed some guy in the airport who was 'blue'... i looked at the guy and thought ' dude looks dreadful, looks like Yushenko looked when he'd been poisoned' and then thought nothing of it... reading this now, i'm begining to be a little concerned


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 04:26 AM by spikey
reply to post by kiwifoot



Hmm.. 'we've been here before'..yes we have, but either this guy said this two months ago, and there is evidence of the date he said it, or there isn't.

If there is, and as we are seeing now in Ukraine, was correct...then it matters not what you think of the reliability of the source, the information is either correct or it's not...and it's looking like it is correct isn't it?

Unfortunately.



reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 05:43 AM by squiz
This has unfolded fast, here's some summarized incident updates from RSOE.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

Definitely sounds like something different.
From seven fatalities on the 29th, now currently at 67 and 190, 000 infected. H1N1 or otherwise.

Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.


Now we are seeing the mainstream media begin it's reporting, except of course it's all swine flu and no mention of the other reports or unconfirmed results.

And thanks alienesque.

Just edited this post as the death toll has jumped 7 since.

[edit on 2-11-2009 by squiz]


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:20 AM by sharandhan
I am sorry but this Moshe guy had said there was RNA from the 1918 Pandemic but the thing is the 1918 pandemic was H1N1 aka swine flu. And as many know RNA can be used to create a vaccine. pathmicro.med.sc.edu...

My point is, if the vaccine has RNA from the 1918 pandemic then it is a legitimate swine flu vaccine and his point proves nothing.

Nice try guys but this conspiracy just got beat.

NEXT!

edit: this is the link shows that the spanish flu (1918 pandemic) was in fact H1N1 www.recombinomics.com...

[edit on 2-11-2009 by sharandhan]


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:45 AM by Nichiren
Originally posted by MajorDisaster
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Can you point me to a link where I can see that J. Moshe really called Dr. Ott's radio show? As far as I know Dr. Ott only thinks that a caller might have been J. Moshe.

Your theory is plausible, but we need facts. Thank you.


Link

educate-yourself.org...

The interview in question may be this one. I don't have time to listen to it right now but if anybody can pinpoint the part where Moshe calls in that'd be great

[edit on 2-11-2009 by MajorDisaster]


Thank you for your speedy reply!

There was no mention of Joseph Moshe in your mp3. The article you linked me to claims that he is a Mossad agent, but it stems from a blogger and there is no evidence that it's true.

Again, I think it's plausible that Mr. Moshe was trying to expose something, but all the wild claims about his connection to the Israeli Mossad are only rumor-based and there is not even evidence that he actually called any radio show.


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 10:21 AM by liveandletlive
Originally posted by sharandhan
I am sorry but this Moshe guy had said there was RNA from the 1918 Pandemic but the thing is the 1918 pandemic was H1N1 aka swine flu. And as many know RNA can be used to create a vaccine.
pathmicro.med.sc.edu...

My point is, if the vaccine has RNA from the 1918 pandemic then it is a legitimate swine flu vaccine and his point proves nothing.

Nice try guys but this conspiracy just got beat.

NEXT!

edit: this is the link shows that the spanish flu (1918 pandemic) was in fact H1N1 www.recombinomics.com...

[edit on 2-11-2009 by sharandhan]


Whats your point again?

acronym for ribonucleic acid, a type of nucleic acid that performs various roles in the replication and functioning of living organisms. RNA takes part in the transcription (transfer) and replication of hereditary information that is stored in DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) and in the expression of this information through protein production. Some types of RNA, called ribozymes, serve as enzymes, or catalysts of biochemical reactions. RNA also is the main genetic substance in certain kinds of viruses and is the constituent of viroids—tiny infectious particles that cause disease in higher plants. In eukaryotes, or organisms whose cells have a nucleus, RNA is found both in the nucleus and in the cytoplasm outside it (see Cell).
www.history.com...


The impact of this pandemic was not limited to 1918–1919. All influenza A pandemics since that time, and indeed almost all cases of influenza A worldwide (excepting human infections from avian viruses such as H5N1 and H7N7), have been caused by descendants of the 1918 virus, including "drifted" H1N1 viruses and reassorted H2N2 and H3N2 viruses. The latter are composed of key genes from the 1918 virus, updated by subsequently incorporated avian influenza genes that code for novel surface proteins, making the 1918 virus indeed the "mother" of all pandemics.
www.cdc.gov...



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