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Topic started on 1-11-2009 @ 02:05 PM by MajorDisaster
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Later in the year, a bizarre story emerged on the internet. The Huffington Post reported on a a man named Joseph Moshe who was arrested after a hours
long standoff with the police because he had supposedly made threats against the White House. The man was able to withstand multiple rounds of tear
gas.
However, the internet community was very skeptical of the true reasons behidn this man’s arrest. Comments on the Huffington Post website immediately
began pouring in about an unreported side to this story, namely that Joseph Moshe was a Mossad Agent specialized in biological warfare who called
into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapn that was being made by Baxter international that would be spread through vaccine and would
cause a plague upon it’s release.
Although anyone can make a doomsday claim and we should never believe anyone (and it must be said that the Truth movement handled this well, the
message was spread without being proclaimed as gospel) the amazing part about Moshe’s claim was the location where Moshe said the biological weapon
was being produced.
Moshe claimed that Baxter’s laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the
beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new
epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can
confirm for himself.
It must also be noted that massive numbers of microbiologists have been dying bizarre deaths. This case of what appears to be a brave man who
sacrificed it all to bring us this message may explain why so many microbiologists have been murdered. The fact that this man managed to predict an
outbreak of highly lethal influenza in a place where we would least expect it, 2 months before it a actually occured, lends credence to his claim that
Baxter International is responsible for the outbreak and shows that top microbiologists can pose a problem to the people responsible for this ongoing
disaster.
Has Baxter International released a biological weapon?
Well there is a lot more that I could quote here but everyone should read this entire article for themselves.
Moshe claimed that the vaccines contain RNA from the deadly 1918 flu!!
And now we have a new plague breaking out in the Ukraine, exactly as he predicted.
Terrifying stuff! 
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:19 PM by remymartin
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:27 PM by MajorDisaster
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:47 PM by kiwifoot
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From what I can gather, it isn't a 'lab' (in the Ukraine) so to speak, but the vaccine produced by Baxter and administered in the Ukraine that
they're talking about.
The Vaccine is tainted with 1918 flu, and chemicals to make the recipient immuno-suppressed.
This is starting to get a little worrying. IMO.
Then again, Huffington Post and Infowars, we've been here before!
[edit on 1-11-2009 by kiwifoot]
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:10 PM by liveandletlive
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:15 PM by liveandletlive
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JBA2848 chimed in and provided this info:
Joseph Moshe not Joesph Moshe Bar
#1 Case No.: SA07201901
Court Name: LAX SUPERIOR DEPT D
Court Address: 11701 S. LA CIENEGA BLVD. Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT
Bail Amount: 0 Fine Amount: .00
Court Date: 10/26/2009 Sentence Date: 10/26/2009 Number of days Sentenced: 0
Disposition Code: PAT Disposition Description: PATTON STATE HOSPITAL
#2 Case No.: 9WA0026501
Court Name: LAX LA MUNI COURT DIV 141
Court Address: 11701 S. LA CIENEGA BLVD. Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT
Bail Amount: 0 Fine Amount: .00
Court Date: 01/25/2010 Sentence Date: 10/26/2009 Number of days Sentenced: 0
Disposition Code: OR Disposition Description: OWN RECOGNIZANCE
#3 Case No.: 9WA0206301
Court Name: LAX LA MUNI COURT DIV 141
Court Address: 11701 S. LA CIENEGA BLVD. Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT
Bail Amount: 0 Fine Amount: .00
Court Date: 01/25/2010 Sentence Date: 10/26/2009 Number of days Sentenced: 0
Disposition Code: OR Disposition Description: OWN RECOGNIZANCE
www.lasd.org...
Seems he got released to a PATTON STATE HOSPITAL until 1/25/10 when his next court date been set.
Hospital Mission
Patton State Hospital's mission is to empower forensic and civilly committed individuals to recover from mental illness utilizing Recovery principles
and evidenced based practices within a safe, structured, and secure environment.
Major components of the hospital's mission include:
EVALUATION: To provide professional evaluations, including recommendations to the courts and other agencies regarding whether individuals are, as
relevant to their classification status, competent to stand trial, appropriate for release into the community, or appropriate placement in an
alternative facility;
TREATMENT: To design and provide individualized quality treatment for mentally ill individuals utilizing a recovery focused biopsychosocial
rehabilitation model; and
PROTECTION:To maintain a secure, safe, therapeutic, and supportive environment for the benefit of the individuals we serve, our employees, and the
community.
DISPOSITION: To prepare individuals we serve for transfer or discharge to the next level of care.
www.dmh.ca.gov...
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:18 PM by liveandletlive
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There is this as well:
Originally posted by liveandletlive
Bcs8484 also provided this:
survivalstation.org...
Recall Baxter’s “accidental” contimination of flu virus material from a plant in Austria in February. The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2
seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology,
then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany, according to the Toronto Sun.
“So far, 30 deaths in Ukraine have been attributed to some kind of influenza, and at least one of them tested positive for the A/H1N1 virus. More
lab tests are expected later next week,” Russia Today reported earlier today. “Express-tests cannot provide a hundred percent verification of the
virus, they give only 50% accuracy. That’s why blood probes of those who died were sent to special laboratories for further testing. And only this
morning it was confirmed that at least 11 deaths were caused by the A/H1N1 virus.” announced Prime Minister Timoshenko.
“The inhabitants of the western regions of Ukraine reached on an unknown disease, whose symptoms are diagnosed as pneumonia,” reports Wolne Media,
a Polish news website. “However, health professionals say the unusual and very rapid course of illness, which has already led to a confirmed death
of 40 patients.”
“The H1N1 virus which causes Mexican flu has been ruled out,” Radio Netherlands Worldwide reported yesterday.
Ukraine Health Minister Vasyl Kniazevych told the National Radio Company of Ukraine that the virus is not H1N1. “The minister noted that the main
objective is to identify the virus causing the disease, which is expected to take several weeks.”
“Our Mexico City source said a top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as
HIV/AIDS victims, concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission ‘vectors’ that suggest that the new flu strain has been
genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon,” investigative journalist Wayne Madsen reported in April after H1N1 surfaced in
Mexico. A UN expert told Madsen he believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are biological warfare agents.
Is it possible the new influenza strain now emerging in Eastern Europe is also a biological warfare agent?
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:23 PM by tothetenthpower
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Well, that is some scary documentation my friend. Good find S&F.
As for the topic, I don't know how much weight can put into it pending further investigation as well as results to find out exactly what this thing
is, and whether it will be spreading like wildfire to other parts of Europe.
If this is the case and a new "mutated" strain of H1N1 is the culprit, means that we must all be weary of what is going on. One mutation this
quickly would lead me to believe that it could happen again, perhaps frequently depending on the victim.
Interesting stuff..
~Keeper
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:47 PM by MajorDisaster
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
If this is the case and a new "mutated" strain of H1N1 is the culprit, means that we must all be weary of what is going on. One mutation this
quickly would lead me to believe that it could happen again, perhaps frequently depending on the victim.
Well I think this is saying that this new outbreak is something new, something WORSE than H1N1. Moshe said that the vaccines contain RNA from the
1918 flu:
American were familiar with the flu; it sent you to bed, made you miserable for 3 or 4 days with fever, muscle aches, and congestion, then left
you shaky for about a week. It made millions sick, yet killed only the oldest, youngest, and most feeble.
The 1918 influenza was not the flu Americans were familiar with. It was a horror that turned victims bluish-black then drowned them with their
own body fluids. the death toll was highest in the ages 15 to 40, those in the peak of health. The victims would be fine one minute and the next
incapacitated, fever-racked, and delirious. Temperatures rose to 104-106 degrees, skin turned blue, purple, or deep brown from lack of oxygen.
Massive pneumonia attacked the lungs, filling them with fluid; blood gushed from the nose. Death was quick, savage, and terrifying.
Reports coming out of Ukraine:
All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3
degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were
soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.
OH MY GOD!!!!
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:52 PM by liveandletlive
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I keep hearing about this on multiple threads. If 50 to a 100 people died out of millions its still not big news. A new strain? Where is the evidence
that tells us something out of the ordinary is happening? Where are the record deaths? Not saying something isnt happening. Would like to see more
proof of a "real" issue. Otherwise the news here is that the government is over reacting. and that begs another question, Why? Is it the elections?
Is something else going on?
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:58 PM by tothetenthpower
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There is obviously proof of something going on. The Ukraine government CANNOT identify some of the virus' that people are experiencing. They are
saying it is NOT H1N1.
This is a serious threat if it's a new strain of H1N1 or a new virus all together.
~Keeper
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:04 PM by liveandletlive
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by liveandletlive
There is obviously proof of something going on. The Ukraine government CANNOT identify some of the virus' that people are experiencing. They are
saying it is NOT H1N1.
This is a serious threat if it's a new strain of H1N1 or a new virus all together.
~Keeper
I found the whole thing with Moshe weird when it happened. The Ukraine thing adds to the mystery. But a new strain means nothing if the new strain
isnt killing in numbers. As a reminder, flu kills 30,000 per year in the states. Thats normal. A few hundred is unremarkable. Even if the strain is
unknown, it has to kill alot of people to be something remarkable. Otherwise, its just a different strain of something that has killed 10 to lets say
200 people.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:06 PM by tothetenthpower
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reply to post by liveandletlive
I certainly understand where your coming from, but this situation is premature as well. It will take a few weeks and some more investigation to
figure out if we are dealing with something serious, or if people are just terrified for no reason.
~Keeper
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:27 PM by Takka
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I know someone who lives in Kiev , I'll ask her if she knows much about this .
Pretty scary if its true
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:39 PM by liveandletlive
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Certainly worth watching what’s going on. If it turns into something, the Moshe thing will really start to pan out. He’s not the only one who was
saying that the drug companies where deliberately spreading a virus. Certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. How much have these companies
made off the vaccines so far? Also, its known that the h1n1 virus was created. Everybody quit talking about that.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:50 PM by TheDon
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COuld be of intrest to you, you get to see the Main Media is saying is in H1N1 whilst in Ekraine totally a different story being told.
Ukraine PLAGUE is NOT H1N1! Western media PROVEN to be LYING!! H1N1 vaccine will NOT help.
www.youtube.com...
Ukraine "mutated" H1N1 Swine Flu has killed 3000 people very quickly, NO CURE, NO VACCINE PNEUMONIC
www.youtube.com...
A vew reports from Ukraine sites, saying that the plague is not H1N1
If anyone in intrested, true or not you decide.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:03 PM by LifENcircleS
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Kyiv Post A:H1N1
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Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has called on politicians, civil servants, and leaders of all levels not to allow panic during the A(H1N1) flu
epidemic in Ukraine.
Tymoshenko said this during the conference call meeting on Saturday.
"I am applying to leaders of all levels not to allow any panic," Tymoshenko said.
She said some mass media and officials with powers have started to release incorrect information about spread of some exotic diseases, including the
pneumonic plague.
Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has called on the heads of the central and local authorities to provide people with trustful information about the
nature of A(H1N1) flu.
As Ukrainian News earlier reported, First Vice Prime Minister Oleksandr Turchynov called on the population not to panic during the A(H1N1) flu
epidemic.
The Health Ministry on October 30 declared the A(H1N1) flu epidemic throughout Ukraine.
The Cabinet of Ministers has introduced quarantine in nine regions, banned organization of mass events, and closed schools for three weeks because of
the epidemic influenza.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:04 PM by T0XiK
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:08 PM by MajorDisaster
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And it hasn't been burned to the ground yet? For shame!!
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:34 PM by SharkBait
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I’ve just spent the last 30 minutes researching the internet including watching the arrest again. Can you relate me to the link where these stories
originated from?
As far as I can see this is all rumor. I can’t find any links or recording of the call to the radio show. Where’s the recording of this! All I
find is Blogs, comments and “conspiracies but no evidence he even called a radio show! Surely if he did, the net works would have picked up that
story! And played that recording. They are always hungry for info.
I’m sure the radio host would have wanted to get some air time too? Nothing , I can’t find anything! Could someone send me that link.
If this story is true, surely now that he’s out the country he can talk? Or maybe his life was threatened ? If Millions of lives are in danger,
would you not risk your life to get the truth out there regardless of the Consequences.
Once you’ve spilled the bean and then you get Bumped off! It kinda puts the Gov. in a bad spot light. And besides if you go by Bin laden’s track
record with hundreds of countries on the lookout for him , I doubt a few agencies would ever find you.
I’m not convinced with this story as there is no evidence of these claims.
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