after reading through the vigilant citizen...

i can not deny that there are indeed symbolism in the music and with the artists.

my question is do we have proof that these are nefarious plans, or is it pop culture using something controversial that they know people on the interwebs are going to point out, and thus spreading their music.

it's kinda a double edged sword. we either dont talk about it, and let them get by if it is a plan, or do talk about it, and it's not a plan, but hey, now EVERYONE knows about lady gaga and beyonce and jay z and so on.

i guess i will leave this topic alone until i find proof one way or the other.

thanks again for the sources, i will be keeping an eye on them.

+1 on the vigilant citizen. My mind is thorougly changed. Concerning Eminem, yes his music has become increasingly "evil"(for lack of a better word)and dark. He's constantly rapping about pedophilia and molestation. His music does nothing for me, IMHO I find it disturbing and disgusting, so I stay away from it!
But Jay-z. I think its safe to say that this guy is very astute when it comes to the occult, thats easy to see when you listen to the song he did way back called "D'evils". He also had another song on his Black album called "Lucifer", which sounded like some sort of pledge of allegiance to the dark one! His roc-a-wear clothes are practically walking advertisements for Freemasonry....Dunno, its highly probable that he's either a Prince Hall Mason or a devout devil worshipper! Alot of people also forget about Jay's involvement with Dr. Malachi York and his "nauwabian" movement in the early 90's.

On a side note. Beyonce...haha, its obvious that she's changed drastically.
Their are atleast a dozen quotes from her floating around the web where she seems to be describing an altered state of perception similar to Demonic posession when she performs as "Sasha Fierce".

Maybe this is Project Monarch at work!?!?! After all Laurel Canyon in the 60's was a known MK-ultra stomping ground

Jay-z wouldn't have the power he had today if he wasn't working for someone major. Rockafella Records should speak for itself, since a lot of stuff is funded by oil tycoons. It is hard to track because it you usually have to find where the money comes from.

Jay-z, Lady GaGa, Nas, Madonna, Beyonce, and a lot of major artists wouldn't have the backing to fund their projects without illuminati money. These artists are used to desensitize kids.

Jay Z also sings something about the Rockefellers in his duo with Rhianna in her song 'Umbrella'...Just thought I'd add that.

"No clouds in my storms
Let it rain, I hydroplane in the bank
Comin' down with the Dow Jones
When the clouds come we gone
We Rockefeller
She fly higher than weather
And she rock it better
You know me
An anticipation for precipitation,stacks chips for the rainy day
Jay, rain man is back with little miss sunshine
Rhianna where you at?"

Ha ha, almost sounds like they where warning us about the recession! Just my two cents, nothing serious.

Just art reflecting life. Most of you have it wrong. Its not "Beyonce" that produces the video. The director, producer, and set designer are the ones that you guys should be looking at.

Beyonce is nothing but a puppet. She probably knows very little about the meaning behind whatever symbolism is used in her videos or performances.

I was watching a Lady Gaga making the video type program, and when they interviewed the director, he was a goth looking guy with a pentagram on his shirt. It's guys like him that are putting the symbols in the videos.

www.vigilantcitizen.com ...there is your answer

Originally posted by iamsupermanv2


you just proved, as far as i can see, that hiphop IS aimed at the dumbest.

i would really like to figure this out, as i am a listener of mr z. i want to know if i'm being "brainwashed".

You claim at least twice that hip hop is aimed at stupid people then admit you listen to it and you still have to ask if youre being brainwashed?

If we assume that youre speaking the truth about it being aimed at dumb people then we have to assume youre too dumb to figure out youre being brainwashed on your own.

So to answer your question, yes, your brain has been washed. Quite thoroughly judging by your own statements.