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Topic started on 1-11-2009 @ 01:49 PM by VergeofObscene
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A good example is this video; www.youtube.com...
Rumour has it that Jay Z is a member of some underground illuminati society or whatever. Despite being on the ugly side of the fence, Beyoncé marries
him (following the very suspicious death of Aaliyah), and then starts putting illuminati imagery into her videos.
Now, of course I could be blowing this out of proportion. But let's assume Jay Z and Beyoncé are not members of any secret society, and do not have
an agenda to dumb down the masses with their music and videos...why the hell are they putting this kind of imagery into their videos? For fun?
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:03 PM by gandhi
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Shes in the illuminati? What kind of answer were you expecting?
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:12 PM by kingoftheworld
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I think that it makes perfect sense that they are in a secret society bent on total control.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:12 PM by Scooby Doo
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All I see - Jay Z included - is them throwing up the Roc-A-Fella hand gesture. The ROC sign has almost become part of modern culture, as you may see
many MLB, NBA and NFL players and other rappers hoisting the gesture. Many have speculated it is of masonic origin, however, Jay Z has promoted the
fact that it is not.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:13 PM by hikix
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I don't know the real truth, but i think its possible that the illiuminati apparently control everything. Now, you have an artist that reaches all
over the world. Hundreds of millions of people from all over the world see this person, hear the music, buy it etc etc. In order to keep control of
the general population the illuminati must control all information getting to them.
So, the illuminati control these artists.. the artists are not part of the illuminati. And, all of the imagery and lyrics are actually made by the
powers that be at the record companies.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:20 PM by bsbray11
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These artists don't know anything about how the world runs when they first make it big. Everything is new to them at that point. And you have all
kinds of people approaching you for all different kinds of things, because big money and big mass attention is involved.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if these guys were "compromised" by secret societies/bankers/politicians/you name it trying to use them to exert
further influence over the masses of peons.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:35 PM by HankMcCoy
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How are bad dancers part of an Illuminati plot?
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:38 PM by InvisibleObserver
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I remember awhile back a former professional wrestler Diamond Dallas Page real name Page Falkinberg, filed a lawsuit against Jay Z and Roc-A-Fella
Records claiming Jay and the company copied the hand gesture from him. As for now the debate continues whether the company and the rapper belong to a
secret society or not, or just copied the hand gesture made famous by professional wrestling in the mid 90s.
www.mtv.com...
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:38 PM by VergeofObscene
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Originally posted by HankMcCoy
How are bad dancers part of an Illuminati plot?
It would be good for her career. Her image is boring as is...needs a bit of satanism to spice her up.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:41 PM by dooper
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Probably took her input from Earth, Wind, and Fire.
Of course they were ahead of the curve.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:41 PM by bsbray11
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Originally posted by HankMcCoy
How are bad dancers part of an Illuminati plot?
Millions of people watch her.
Enough said.
Continual dumbing down of America....
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:57 PM by Cabaret Voltaire
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Come on. Somebody else is making the videos. Somebody else is controlling them. They are like pets doing tricks for treats. You really think Beyonce
and Sean know anything secret and powerful? Brittany Spears is right there with them.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:26 PM by baddmove
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:40 PM by baddmove
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go to the "The Devolution of the Sacred Feminine"i believe she is in that section....
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:02 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Interesting. That's the Obama sign and also,
The hands of the Führer organize his speech. This picture captures Hitler's hands as he speaks of the unity of the National Socialist and
socialist ideas.
Source.
Interesting. Socialist ideas.
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:14 PM by acmpnsfal
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I think its ridiculous that anyone would think that just because someone is in the music industry, more specifically rap or pop, that they cannot
have ties to these types of organizations. Just more bias and division, but anyway, along with Beyonce's imagery, which im not sure she has picked
consciously, her husband Jay-Z had some interesting lyrics in his new song Empire State of Mind. Maybe im just reading too much into but he says
"Three dice, ceelo, three card monte, labor day parade, rest in peace bob marley, statue of liberty, long live the world trade, long live the king."
The song is obviously about his attachment to New York city but I think that the choice of words is interesting.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:26 PM by dontbelievehype
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As someone who has had a big interest in hiphop from way back in the day when it was fresh and hadn't been sucked dry by the white corporate masters,
I will tell you why and others regard Beyonce, Jay Z, and their lackeys as pied pipers for Lucifer/Baphomet worship.
Forget all this Illuminati reference - that word is way misused and overhyped. Jay Z and Beyonce plus others (Pink, Lady Gaga etc) are just messenger
boys and girlsfor the strong occultic influences at work in the entertainment industy.
Jay Z has screwed over other Blacks in the music industry whether they are execs or artists by sucking them dry and then #ting on them, snitching on
them to the powerful whites who run the business or screwing with their music projects so that they can't develop etc. He's the perfect slave for
them, he's got concessions that make him appear powerful but in essence he owes everything he's got business wise by doing what the massas say.
Yes, Luciferian worship is being pushed in videos, at the VMAs etc. Note that Beyonce, Rianna, Kanye and others makes sure they have the Baphomet head
around whether in accessories or pictures or whatever. I know there are many elements under the broad category 'occult' and I am not a Christian tho
I respect the New Testament as having a lot of good things to live your life by.
The VMAS pushed various occult symbology and rituals on mostly unsuspecting tv viewers and music buyers. My basic point is: If you're into it, come
out and say it so people will decide if they want to support you. If you believe Lucifer is a positive principle that is your choice but these people
we are talking about are doing the bidding of those in the background with dark agendas of control and the promotion of money and materialism as an
idol.
Another
of the big problems I have with all these references is the Luciferian movement is tied up with those who wish to impose a new world order of mind and
other control. I do believe that Luciferian adherents are sick influences in the entertainment biz and unfortunately nowadays the entertainment biz
spills over into and connects with other aspects of society.
People who try to defuse this by talking about Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple or whoever are missing the point. Popular culture has become a huge influence
on so much in our societies and in some cases represents what is sick about them - the flaunting of money as being the measure of your worth, the
contempt for others, the need to control others, constant shallow messages that demean humans,
Led Zeppelin and co had a few endorsements but they weren't all over us selling high tech products, being everywhere, being pushed as role models,
being promoted in the media and on the net as THE people. Jay Z, Beyonce et are in our face constantly as are their Luciferian images.
The Red Hot Chilli Peppers thanked Satan at an awards show - at least they had some honesty. The Jay Zs and Beyonces etc have achieved a level of
fakeness and deception that has not been seen in popular culture. Sure we had fake, put together groups but they weren't promoting the Lucifer
agenda.
Eminem has taken an especially dark turn - clearly he is a troubled person. However, if you're going to scream racism and double standards - think
again. His songs are sounding uglier and uglier, he is obsessed by the notion again and again of being possessed and unable to get out. The Jay Z and
Beyonce encouragement of all this is the user friendly, glamorous propaganda all over your tv, your magazines, in your face selling computers,
flaunting Luciferian symbols.
And while I am wary of attributing demonic possession to people (it's a highly contoversial area), there does seem to be an indication that the Rain
Man who Jay Z, Eminem and others reference is demonic. The alter egos of these people seem disturbed. Jay Z talks about letting 'god' in when he
freestyles but what that god is, is very muchopen to question.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:36 PM by Lil Drummerboy
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Well I must be completely dumb or that is just another dance video all about look at me dance and shake my boobs. I don't see anyhing in that that
screams lumianything.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 08:58 PM by wtfnext
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Jay z is a known MAson one of high degree...his albums show his profression his videos have messages of the dark side which is who is the leader of
luciferians/masons/secret occult societies...Satan. He rules that side of things. Yes it's black and whote. beyonce is just the whore they use, Jay z
has many influences and many many dumb #s idolize him and want to be godless like him.
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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:20 PM by Cabaret Voltaire
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Eminem is definitely turned to the wrong side. He has been manipulated. Like many who are just smart enough, but not diligent enough or studious
enough to really find the truth, he has been led down the path by a carrot on a stick.
Eminem raps about revolution, about violent overthrow of whites (though he is white he wants black attention), about Muslim cellular outbreaks at the
mall, about laying in wait with your AK until the trigger event. Eminem and the people that handle his affairs are extremely dangerous.
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