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how many here at ats are worried about what they have posted

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posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 02:52 PM

Originally posted by dashar
reply to post by Now_Then

\\\\\\so if we take web 2.0 out will the internet still work for us who dont know about computers or the software ,
wasnt web 20 an update from microsoft. cause i dont know????

No not really - web 2.0 really refers to the way we use the internet today as opposed to 5 or 10 years ago, then it was all e-mail, irc chat, forum boards like this but the membership was different, usually either specialised in a field or geeks.... after all it was not so long ago that this was the natural environment for heards of geeks and nerds as far as the eye could see - quite a sight to behold

Nah web 2.0 (so far as I know) really came about with the popularity of video streaming like youtube etc, and the explosion of the social networking sites (started with the likes of friends reunited, then all the others came along).... Basically web 2.0 was when the web was slightly re orientated and every type of person used it as part of their every day life and not just as a research and communication tool... Basically when people started using it recreationally (and living large parts of their lives online to boot - that's the juicy brains that the intel zombies will be after!).

So web 2.0 is not any specific one update, just a term.

[edit on 1/11/2009 by Now_Then]

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 03:07 PM
Any fragment of true we have must be spread. Of course we scare of the possible concecuences, be brave and proud of defend your freedom. I am a contactee, I could write about so many experiences anytime. I know it is a big chance to be traced since I have information that could help awake others. That is not going to stop me. anytime sombody wants to talk to me about this, I do my part the best I can.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 03:39 PM
I knew what I was getting myself into when I joined this site. I have no regrets to what I have posted here on ATS or future posts that are to come. As hard as they might try to stop me, till the very end I will fight TPTB by not being scared of the outcome and informing others of the BS that the world has to suffer under their rule.
S&F for being brave like me.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 04:03 PM

Originally posted by GW8UK
if i was accused of anything due to my ats posts i would take a bomb in to parliment myself and make sure everyone of us has a safe journey to hell

Oh dude, if they weren't coming for you before, they sure are now lol!

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 04:12 PM
They'll never find me.

I'm a member of the super secret nighthawk commandos.

Shadow section, ghost platoon.

You didn't see me. I wasn't here.

If anybody asks, just tell em I'm a little old rastafarian lady running a falafel cart on the boardwalk in Jersey.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 04:52 PM
free thinking of what? maybe its the meds im taking or what have you, but i no longer fear this... i see now that anything i have done in that past is pure delusion, and my way is forewords...

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 04:57 PM

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
reply to post by dashar

All i said in the last year are my words. I would not consider changing one letter and if they ever came for me to ask if i believe what i wrote...

I will proudly say Yes no matter what the consequences....


ditto, i just say the truth, if you do not like it so what.

I am being monitored all the time anyway.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 04:59 PM
I have nothing to hide...the government tax man and the bad economy took it all!

I have nothing to fear...but fear itself and my monthly cellular bill thanks to five children on my plan.

Contrary to popular belief Prison food is not bad!

Death is just the beginning.

The Mummy Returns, and so do I, again and again and again no matter how many times they kill me!

Yeah for me, boo for them.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:29 PM
interesting ideas . i wonder about perhaps reversing the game, so that as freethinkers, we, the ats, might have the more empowering fame?? i'm proud of my words in both thread and posts on the ats and i wonder at having to justify them to anyone knocking on my door and asking me about those ideas.(all of us on this site have to justify all of our words on this site so much to each other that government agents would be no match for any of us) So if that happened: First of all I would be like, look here f$%%kchops, who the f$% are you first of all? And I would keep on until mr man in black a@@muncher knew that he was f@#$king with the wrong man. Then I would point out the fact that he has no sense of his own self in order to be working in the position that he's in ; what with being a stalker for a living. After I embarrassed him/them i would then intelligently say that they are no different from paparrazzi parasites feeding off of others because they are too #ed to go about this life creating and adding energy to the universe.
keep in mind, ats, that it's not just what you post on the ats. it's your emails too. your facebooks, and your twitters. remember no government or organization has the right to spy on you. you are free citizens . you pay the salaries of the politicians and the police. if the tptb want information on me let them come to me and be polite and be gentlemen/women and ask me, the source. Don't spy on me like a little pussy . It's like throwing a sucker punch. Sure , it's a result. But it's a pyrrhic one. Cheap. Spineless. So whatever you post in the future, whatever you email, or twit, im,make sure you have a drink first, some weed, or whatever and make sure that you write from the depths of your soul. remember that nobody has the right to inimidate you or make you feel afraid.
and like stevie wonder sang on higher ground:
Powers keep on lying
While your people keep on dying
Worldkeep on turning
star and flag

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:32 PM

Originally posted by dragonsmusic
interesting ideas . i wonder about perhaps reversing the game,

I can see what your getting at - abandon all paragraphs!

Seriously that was hard to read!

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:33 PM
I seriously doubt that free thinkers would be the target here, I mean I see a lot about "groups" wanting to suppress free thought but I think that they would prefer it here. Because here it can be monitored and there is no rally here to get people motivated to really do anything. Its just discussion so i really see nothing to worry about unless you yourself are planning something to the detriment of society, in that case, you get what you deserve.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:39 PM
reply to post by acmpnsfal

Precisely they would rather have you here bitchin and moanin than in the street.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:42 PM
reply to post by kiwifoot

indeed, kiwi, gw8uk is screwed

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:45 PM
I am already aware of such a system to collect, and organize a person's/user's opinions and compile them into a file in order to create a social/psychological profile on that person.

It's called the ECHELON system.

Everything I post on ANY site is not only for that website's consumption, but for the consumption of any Federal Intelligence or Law Enforcement Agency out there.

It's not just the U.S. Intelligence Aparatus that is watching us, but also Canadian, British, French, Australian, Brazillian, Russian, and Chinese.

That much I'm sure of based on the number of hits my McAfee Log Viewer records. And that's just the ones that it CATCHES. There must be a dozen or systems out there that are designed to evade prorgrams like McAfee.

But it shouldn't make much of a difference to people who accept the fact that we live in a liberal society. And that's what we should be aiming towards as a whole.

"The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant, in a free and open society."

If you're afraid of someone knowing everything you say, then you have something to hide. If you have something to hide, then your motives are sinister. If your motives are sinister, THEN YOU SHOULD BE WATCHED by "Big Brother".

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:46 PM
reply to post by dashar

Yes sir, Be afraid, be very afraid. right now they just collecting names and addresses, then their super computer will be profiling all your comments, not just on this site but every time you go on line.

Once they have profiled you then they know whether you a Potential risk to them or not.

When the time is right, units in your area will be knocking on your door. It’ll appear random to the “rest’ as to how and why special units hit a home and take the occupant. He or she must have been a criminal and wanted by the Police! Huh! Yeah right.

You’ll never be seen again. You’ll be taken to a “camp” for further questioning and of course you’ll need to get a “shot’ to avoid spreading any potential Viruses. And sadly later it’ll be reported to your family that you caught a Virus and died. They did everything they could you save you and treated you well.

They’ll make up some story as to why you were arrested in the first Place.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 05:51 PM
reply to post by Now_Then

sorry about the lack of paragraphs
in the future i will look into that

glad you see what i'm getting at

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 08:02 PM

Originally posted by dashar

i am willing to die for my belief .......

I am sure your willingness to die has been duly noted .

On a serious note i hear what you are saying . The trouble it seems, is that our elected representatives & their burgeoning staff are drawn by and large from the corporate world.
Of course this makes sense , considering that this is where the expertise to manage such large scaled systems resides but throws all kinds of conflicts of interest into the mix.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 08:36 PM
If I endeavored to live as Sarah Silverman does:

"I try to live each moment like my therapist can see everything I'm doing",

then I wouldn't have much of an opinion, would I?? haha

I second what many before me have expressed, and that is I couldn't care less what TPTB think of what I have to say - I try to take this stance with everybody, and they're really no different or anything special
The same could be said of updating your Twitter or Facebook status and, to be honest, I often post things that I know will cause a stir.

They can do what they want with me but I believe living in the now is most important and that's how I'll continue to carry on.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 09:20 PM
Most of what I've said here has been very tame, compared to what others have written. Certainly I've never supported anything violent or illegal. Of course, that wouldn't protect me against a fascist regime, but right now we don't actually have a fascist regime in power. We could go that way if we're not careful, but so far we're not there.

But really, if they come for me (and many others), we're already toast. Our words are recorded for all time, logged and backed up and probably saved onto many personal hard drives as well. If they decide Comrade Chiron had disloyal thoughts, that's it for me.

But the Internet is a two-edged sword. Yes, it immortalizes words that may come back to haunt us; but it also makes it much easier to spread ideas around. Since it's so tightly linked to commerce, there isn't much chance of the Government doing away with the Internet. Too many corporations would complain.

Remember what happened a while ago, when some company's encryption key was cracked and published? They tried to claim they had a "copyright" on that number, and wanted to sue the people who published it. Within hours, this number had been published throughout the world, on hundreds of thousands of Websites. Songs were created based on the "notes" that the numbers would sound. Flags were created with the numeric codes standing for the colors. And millions of blogs simply reported the facts, including the number itself.

The Internet is very hard to censor. You can do it more or less in a place like China, where they have absolute control over every server. Even there they have plenty of leaks. They also don't rely on Internet for much commerce, at least not among the citizens. Elsewhere, though, it's almost impossible to censor the Internet.

That being the case, if the Government begins to suppress free speech and punish those who have expressed unfavorable opinions towards the Government, word will flash around the world within a few hours.

A paranoid scenario would not be a major roundup of ATS-type people. Rather it would be a much quieter, more subtle elimination of the most vocal people - the ones doing the most damage, coming closest to the secrets that must be kept hidden, the ones who are not just talking, but also doing. Then you might see the odd tragic accident, robbery gone wrong, victim of a "hate crime", a suicide now and then, maybe some child pornography found on a hard drive, drug busts, confinement in a mental institution (or heavy medication if no confinement), that sort of thing. Discredit them, cast doubts on their sanity, have them come down with H1N1 or AIDS or something, slip on some ice, whatever it takes. Heck, even set one group against another (or make it look that way), and blame any killings on some war between them.

That's what I'd be more worried about, the subtle attacks.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 09:25 PM
Operate under the guidelines that EVERY SINGLE THING on or connected to a computer with internet capability has been read, copied, or filed away somewhere.

NOTHING is secure, period.

Remember the 1950s phone operators? They'd connect a call and hear everything that went across the line. Same as now, there are tons of software and hardware devices that interpret everything. There are even government run programs that figure out what you're NOT saying!!

If you say on a cell phone or email, "Stop by the bank, meet us in the back, and we'll divy up the hamburgers." You just got red flagged because some software package recognized that 'hamburgers' doesn't logically fit there. And a live person will eventually read that email, or listen to that recorded phone call.

The technology and the opportunity is there, that leaves ethics to keep the government from listening

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