Man, estranged wife charged with filming themselves raping girl, 4-year-old girl, page 3
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 01:45 PM by Solomons
reply to post by HappilyEverAfter



And that would solve nothing other than your own quest for blood and pain. These people should be punished, but your sense of punishment verges on barbarism. I could perhaps see the point if it would achieve something, but it wouldn't. It would only quell your lust and not stop what is important, which is the protection of children. Draconian means of torture and execution would not hinder it at all, learn from history.


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 01:57 PM by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by Solomons



I dont have a quest for blood and pain.
The man that raped the little baby did.
I have a quest for eliminating that .
Appeals, plea bargains, reduced sentencing, 3 hots and a cot in prison, criminals "rights"? I'm of the position that THOSE contribute more to the continuation of this type of behavior than any draconian (and i'm not) method of execution.
Maybe with the technology we have today we could manufacture little latex babies in china with "all the right parts" and let the sick basturds buy them? We'd be "saving" children?
Those twisted needs are going to want to be met, correct?
Or do we just keep jailing and bailing them?
No sir, I hold to my point, REMOVE them from the planet, and on the way out , allow them to experience the sickness and pain that "they" thought were so correct.


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:11 PM by Solomons
reply to post by HappilyEverAfter



? Again, you are looking at things short term and with an emotional knee jerk reaction. Your solution to the problem won't solve the problem.Simple as that. The problem will never go away,as far as i can see anyway. Better to put our resources into stopping the atrocities as much as we can. Course that will never be good enough, but it is a lot better than begging for pain and suffering without ever trying to resolve the issues that we need to.



reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:12 PM by Lolage
reply to post by Zosynspiracy



Well, how else would they test it? Asking them nicely?

They should be neutered anyhow


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:33 PM by irishchic
I am sad and weary of reading about situations like this every damn week! Plus the growing number of extreme child abuse and prostitution.
Children are are future and these SICK SOB'S are robbing them of their innocence and us of their potential!
I am all in favor of a "no tolerance" policy to be implemented in the case of a crime against a child: you are executed within 30 days,NO damn "mental evaluations" or plea-bargins,you are simply gone.The reason this horrible stuff keeps haappening is that there isn't enough consequnce for the crimes,period.
"They are sick..." "They are from a bad background..." "They were off their meds..."
Enough.They need to be eliminated.

I remember when I was in Malaysia: there is a ZERO tolerance on drug-trafficking there. Young man two cars ahead of our cab was driving a pickup full of durian...a delicious but VERY pungent fruit. He had to slam on his brakes and stop suddenly when someone ran out into the road. There was a police car a few cars back and unfortunately,the durian went flying off the back of the truck and onto the road,breaking open to expose the drugs within.
He was arrested on the spot and executed by hanging less than 2 weeks later...he was 19.
Sob story? Sure it's sad but he KNEW the consequences of transporting drugs and they stick to their policies.
I truly believe our leinient legal-system is partically to blame for these freak-shows of human beings being allowed to victimize children.
Not expecting this to be a popular posting but I feel strongly about it: start making a damn example out of some of them and then see if the numbers go down,there is WAY too much of it happening currently!


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:59 PM by StevenDye
reply to post by irishchic



Exactly the point many make, he was excecuted with in two weeks, he knew the consequences, and yet he STILL did it. The death penalty will never make the problem go away.


The FIRST problem we need to overcome is the knee jerk disguted reaction, the age of consent in England only moved to 16 in 1886, from 12! Yes as recent as that young children were engaging in acts most would find repulsive now. So right away we have sorted a majority of paedophiles into a category very recently seen as acceptable because it is natural, these people need to be dealt with different than say paedophiles who rape 4 year old children.


Yes they need to be kept away from the public until we can find a way to 'cure' them, but we do need to fine that way, killing them off when we catch them will never stop them.


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:04 PM by Aeons
Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to
post by Aeons



There is no way, when someone has done something like this, is ever going to rehabilitated. I am sory but those who say it works. Hmms oks tell that to the victims of these offenders. Whom have to live with a horrible life sentence on thier heads everyday for the rest off thier lifes.

[edit on 1-11-2009 by Laurauk]


And these people almost surely fit my definition of people who should be killed by the state - because they have surely committed serial heinous crimes.



reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:14 PM by spiritwomyn
reply to post by dodadoom



The new hate crime bill protects all forms of sexual deviance, including this. Many in the homosexual community believe "sex before eight or its to late".

The second largeast group that is a threat to our children is the UN.


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:20 PM by spiritwomyn
reply to post by StevenDye



Yet doing this to children is allowed in many countries and we do business with these countries.

We are supposed to be intelligent humans and yet we are the only species on earth that does this to their children.

If a male bear tried this with some bears cub, he would be ripped to shreds.

What will happen to the child? Well I just read about a man who from early childhood was tortured and conditioned, not by his parents, but by a secret government program, using many children to raise them as super soldiers.

This just is one more demonstration that slavery, hate crimes, and all the other things have nothing to do with color, gender, religion, politics, but man's inhumanity to man.

We can not have peace until we have equality and with that will be freedom. But it has to start within each of us. Protect our children.


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:31 PM by StevenDye
reply to post by spiritwomyn



Yes, and can you tell me how killing a man AFTER he has raped a young child protects that young child?


Whilst lokcing him up and trying to find a cause for this perversion COULD save others...

As I said, paedophilia is split, after the child is about 12, then naturally nothing wrong is happening...by society maybe, but not by nature. Therefore it needs to be treated different to someone who rapes a young child of say 5, there is no natural reason for this to happen, the girl cannot give birth.


But as I said, killing the man doesn't save that child, and prevents us from trying to save others... if you catch a paedophile after he has raped someone you are already too late...


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:30 PM by moocowman
reply to post by StevenDye





Yes they need to be kept away from the public until we can find a way to 'cure' them, but we do need to fine that way,


This would imply a medical illness then ?

Are we dealing with an illness that causes crime but only the criminal act is receiving the attention and not the illness ?

I'm having trouble getting my head around this, a schizophrenic is ill and receives treatment to help them and help prevent possible criminal actions.

A pedophile when caught is locked up in jail with people who would cause us harm to harm them on our behalf ?

Surely it is time for societies to decide once and for all whether to hang or cure these people, if it is an illness let's face up to it and find out what causes it.

If it's just criminal behavior and is deemed to be the worst type then surely the worst type of punishment should be inflicted ?

What is interesting to note, is that the involvement of women seems to be on the increase.

Should we welcome Gattica ?
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