Originally posted by ADVISOR
I did not post this thread to under go an inquisition by you, or the member previous to you.
So why exactly did you post this thread? To spread some type of information? To make your dreams or opinions a reality? I know you’re a mod and all
but your posts are fit for the chopping block just like everyone else, so if you’re going to post something you should expect, and accept, so-called
Am I a hypocrite, yes. Who isn't?
Plenty of people aren’t hypocrites.
But show me some one who does not feel rapists and child abusers/molesters deserve the worse form of punishment...
Go to www.apa.org...
and spend some time on the site.
And I will show you an individual who doesn't, doesn't belong among us.
See above, and not only are you a hypocrite (your words not mine), but you also endorse bias and discrimination when it suits your belief system. Why
should these people not be amongst us? Because they believe in rehabilitation?
What race am I, I am of the human race. How about you?
So if you’re of the human race how is that punishment got our race into this so-called mess? Wouldn’t a rational person look at deviance or the
things which usually cause deviance as the problem?
Since you asked (and I am guessing, you meant my ethnicity) I am of mixed Lebanese and Scandinavian decent. What does it matter,
I asked because you
said it, and I couldn’t make heads or tails of why you said it.
Trying to label me as Christian or Islamic, Athiest or monotheistic?
Non issue, same as race it doesnt matter, we are all people.
No, you said “our race”, so I wanted to know what race you were talking about and how the actions in the vid contribute to the problem.
It is that exact, EXACT type of BS divisive mentality that divides us all.
Again, I’m not the one who mentioned race, you did. Moreover, you speak of divisive mentality as if you’re the harbinger of truth, yet you admit
to being a hypocrite and have single handedly attacked a group of people for no reason.
Again, this thread is being derailed. You or any one else whom wants off topic answers fromme, please by all means U2U me, if your going to
cause topic drift.
So now when people ask you to stop showing bias the thread is being derailed? When people ask you about comments you made about race the thread is
being derailed? I’m sorry but what you’re doing is downright wrong, and you need to look at your shortcomings and blatant bias before you accuse
others of derailing threads and going off topic. Again, you, ADVISOR, mentioned race, so it is only logical that when a person does not understand a
comment (that was so over the top that openly laughing at it would result in a ban or another -1,000 ATS points) that they ask for clarification or an
explanation of the statement, which I did.
But, by all means if you feel your questions merit a public address start a new thread and invite me there for your inquisition.
You should have started a new thread, or at least explained why you made the statement. But see, I know exactly what it is you’re doing. It’s word
jugglery and fallacies that you’re relying on and you’ll attempt to make it seem as if I’m off topic when you’re the one who made the initial
statement. Moreover, you’ll have everyone high up the food chain siding with you because you’re a mod, but mods can be wrong, and you’re wrong
on this one. I spent my time reading your thread, watching the video and said nothing to you until you quoted me. From then on you were fair game, you
were fair game for making the thread, but I chose to not directly address, and you opened the doors for this exchange.
I how ever insist upon staying on topic.
If you insist on staying on topic stop introducing subject matter that has nothing to do with the thread, and if it does, at least give some insight
as to why it does. Moreover, since you insist on staying on topic I have some questions you failed to address:
If we don’t know what crime was committed, we can’t say if the method was inappropriate. We’re talking about death here and if they have laws
that say people should be executed for X, and when executing you must do Y with Z, who are YOU to say they are wrong?
Also, for the record I am not offended, upset or bothered by you or any fellow ATSer for questioning. But it should not cause the topic of this
thread to drift to a topic about me.
Again, the only reason why this topic is about you is because you made it about you. Moreover, pointing out bias and hypocrisy is a good thing, as it
fits in with the “deny ignorance” tagline.
I don't go to your threads, on an inquisition to question your motivation for submitting topics you feel are relevent, do I? The same is
expected in return.
Thank you for careing enough, to voice your thoughts.
I’ve yet to make a thread here, and if I did, you have EVERY right as an ATS poster to post within the confines of ATS T&C and address me. More on
May we please, now continue with this or do you really want me to start multiple threads each highlighting how examples of horror exist in
every culture? I mentioned it, if you are too lazy to search for the few occurances I didnt link to then fine. thats your laziness.
No, I don’t want you to start multiple threads, that clearly isn’t what I asked. I asked for you to link me to vids you made that showed other
religious groups committing atrocities. In other words, I’m asking you to stop promoting bias under the veil of denying ignorance and authority.
But I did lik to other examples, including US CIA renditions to Uzbekistan for torture, I feel that listing example has been done.
I read those, I read about the CIA giving the green light to boil people, etc. However, you seem to have a problem with people calling you on this
great piece of propaganda, so I will refer back to my previous question: who are YOU to say they are wrong?
Please, read the whole thread or at least my replies which have in most already commented on what you and others presented.I love you people,
but dang nabit why so difficult?:lolI know, I know, advisor makes him self into such a pretty painted target)
I read your responses, and I’m glad you love us, but you are open to scrutiny and criticism just as everyone else. Moreover, as a result of being
mod/admin, you are held to higher standards and callings, and providing answers to questions, clarifications etc come with the job. Finally, you made
yourself a target. I didn’t quote you, I was actually going to avoid saying anything to you but you quoted me and that has led to this exchange.
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