Tea Party Movement Scores Its First Political Scalp, page 1
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Topic started on 31-10-2009 @ 02:56 PM by jdub297
Just in case anyone STILL is gullible enough to think that
"Tea Party" = "Republican," maybe you can start to admit the truth that you (and the Rebublicans and RINOs) have denied for so long ... .

As the tea party movement scored its first political scalp, mainstream Republicans wasted no time in grasping at the coat tails of Conservative Doug Hoffman.

The high-profile off-year special election House race in upstate New York that had Republicans scrambling to pick the right side turned into a stampede rightward Saturday, as stragglers rushed to endorse Hoffman after Republican Dede Scozzafava suspended a campaign that she appeared to have little chance of winning.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who’d previously warned that backing Hoffman in the NY-23 House race amounted to a “purge” of the GOP, told POLITICO Saturday morning that he was now endorsing the conservative, "and believe[s] everyone who wants to create jobs with lower taxes and to control spending and deficits should vote for Hoffman Tuesday."

www.politico.com...

So call us all your stupid made-up slurs, use your intellectually-bankrupt pet names, but it's time to face ideological reality:

"We're mad as Hell, and we're NOT gonna take it anymore."

The Tea Party movement is NOT and never has been Democrat v. Republican; FOX v. MSNBC, or any of your make-believe pigeon holes.

Dismiss us, write us off all you want, but we are going to bring this Country what it wants: REAL "Change" you can believe in.

(and you better believe it)

jw

[edit on 31-10-2009 by jdub297]


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 03:39 PM by jdub297
reply to post by endisnighe

Hell if I did not have my history I would be running for an office. Anyone out there, that does not have large skeletons in your closet, run for any office, city council, county board and let's start the peaceful revolution. I mean it. We need different people than the handpicked stooges.


Don't forget, you don't have to run to be effective. I helped support local candidates back in the late 20th century when I was still in college. We got a non-partisan mayor and an ex-hippie elected councilman. Threw out their big-business corrupt incumbent opponents. Austin has never been the same.

Just a bunch of kids with a cause.

SOVEREIGNTY IS OUR RIGHT, if anyone continues this path, THEY ARE TRAITORS and should be treated that way.
...

If you are not involved in politics (the very least of expressing your opinion to everyone you know), you have no right to complain.
(emphasis added)

Every candidate has a website or a phone number. Begin with giving your name and email. You WILL be contacted. You WILL be offered opportunities to help.

Choose not to, and you WILL be left out.

Very simple, really.

s4u

jw


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 04:10 PM by ExPostFacto
reply to post by pavil



The Tea Party movement focuses on the individuals benefiting from government decisions. The two major political parties are attempting to hijack portions of the movement, but they are missing the point. We are not interested government spending that does not give benefit to the individual. We are not interested in corporations squeezing money from the tax payer. We want real change and focus on our needs not institutional needs.



reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 04:40 PM by jdub297
reply to post by pavil

The big problem now will be TPINOs. Tea Partiers In Name Only. Look for both major parties to try and cater/copy them.


Boy, is that certain! I expect that MSNBC and other liberal MSM outlets will now start naming THEIR 'up and coming' favorites as TP members, as they look for coattails to grab.

Or else, they just continue to ignore reality, indulge fantasy, and otherwise distract from the coming end to "business as usual."

(need proof? just read the posts immediately above and below)

It won't be long before they start taking credit where NONE is due for all that the TPM has accomplished, no thanks to any of them.

I don't mind coverage, it's the "we're on YOUR side, too" attitude that many of them cop, FOX included, that is our worst problem.

TPM will get by just fine with "fair and balanced" coverage, if anything like that even exists anymore.

"The times, they are a changing."

jw

[edit on 31-10-2009 by jdub297]


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 04:44 PM by vor78
reply to post by Avenginggecko



You're right. This is much more about internal GOP politics than a non-partisan movement.

I do disagree about one thing, however. The GOP establishment didn't pressure Scozzafava to quit for fear of losing another seat. No, they did so to save face and prevent Scozzafava finishing behind a third party candidate, but also to try to contain what basically amounts to a conservative revolt against the NY GOP and prevent it from spreading nationally.

The weak party leadership has a major problem on their hands with a disgruntled base and if this continues, Michael Steele and some others may soon find themselves out of a job.

[edit on 31-10-2009 by vor78]


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 04:46 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by jdub297



First political scalp is the democrat loss in Virginia.
2nd political scalp will be the conservative WIN in New York.
3rd political scalp will be Christie WIN in New Jersey.
Bad news for Team Obama.
Big headache Wednesday morning for the White House.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 06:25 PM by Southern Guardian
reply to post by jdub297



You know, regardless of political leanings its a fairly positive thing for the moment to see support for third party candidates. I think folks should start looking towards other options beyond the R's and D's, and this is a good way to promote it.... to show that third party choices to have chances... That being said, I disagree with you on your analysis on the tea parties.

To me the tea parties are mixed.... there are a fair amount of folks who in there wish to start a new party, who are tired of just two main parties, and then theres a fair amount of folks who will march on with em' because this movement is mostly against liberal policies. But once they get home (and to the votin' booths come 2010) they'll be paying their support to Fox and the RINO's. The tea party movement has been hijacked and its been that way for a long time now. Sure you will find folks who will walk with you and tell you they agree with you, but ultimately its just their frustration at the Dems because Fox news told them so.... and yea... come 2010, the republicans will have some help thanks to this movement.

I tell ya, if this movement is against both parties, ya'll helping to fight it by tolerating the participation of fox news and republican speakers, as they have been in the last few protests. When I confronted folks about this, the excuse is always "well fox atleast is paying attention". I dont give a damn whether fox is merely "paying attention" to this movement, they have have a big "R" on their logo and those republican speakers are part of that very system this movement is supposedly against. 2010 won't be any different.

So, good on this third party candidate for making headway past the R's and the D's, but that doesnt change the overall consensus of the two party system and their chances come 2010.

SG

[edit on 31-10-2009 by Southern Guardian]


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:57 PM by jdub297
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to
post by jdub297

You know, regardless of political leanings its a fairly positive thing for the moment to see support for third party candidates. I think folks should start looking towards other options beyond the R's and D's, and this is a good way to promote it.... to show that third party choices to have chances... That being said, I disagree with you on your analysis on the tea parties.


If you believed what you post here, then why immediately resort to the "FOX" and "Republican" tagging as if such connections were the fault of the TPM? Why not cover all the bases and bring in the Liberal/Democrat/Progressive movements and their MSM cohorts?

Your omission reveals a flawed perception.

To me the tea parties are mixed....


Stopping there would leave you with some credibility. But you segue into your standard drone against anyone or anything purely anti-liberal or pro-conservative, regardless of who does or doesn't jump on their bandwagon:

... once they get home (and to the votin' booths come 2010) they'll be paying their support to Fox and the RINO's. The tea party movement has been hijacked and its been that way for a long time now.


If you'd just keep with the opinion and speculation, it would be one thing. To state something as fact when it is not (see below) is just misinformation.

I tell ya, if this movement is against both parties, ya'll helping to fight it by tolerating the participation of fox news and republican speakers, as they have been in the last few protests.


Of course, no self-respecting liberal would ever "tolerate" any outsiders' points of view, would they? Or even understand how anyone else could. To "tolerate" in this flawed logic/mindset, is to be "hijacked by" or co-opted by or sold out to.

Oh, and how about that GREAT signature of yours! As false as much of the other empty tripe spewed here, without fear of disclosure, as if it were gospel.

And not just slanderous, and false, but Stolen.

PLAGIARIZED from the "Boondocks" strip of November 3, 1988 and re-printed as "Classic Boondocks" August 1, 2004. Isn't it?

See for yourself (but you already knew this when you stole it, didn't you?):
theboondocks.tribe.net...
Or did the Tribe/Aaron McGruder sell you permission to use it as your own?

Or, will you claim "Ignorance?"

If the latter, does that hold true for all the rest of your contributions, or just some of them?

Deny Ignorance!

jw


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 11:43 PM by mrpotatohead
The only way anything will really change, is for the wholsale removal of every incumbant, no matter how popular they are, no matter how much pork they bring to your district.

Anyone who is fearfull of losing a so called "good representative" must realize they are all part of a sick , broken system. And ask yourself, could anybody do any worse??

As a collective group, now led by the Dems, they have , through total malfeasance of office, and willfull neglect of the constitution, ruined this country, and saddled us with a debt we can never repay. The Republicans have had their chance to stop the madness, and went right along with it. They are all guilty. Throw them all out, and start over.

This next major election in 2010 will be the first real chance voters will get to have revenge. These life long Senators, and Congressmen, who have never worked a real job in their life, need to be given the pink slip. Those idiot left wing msm reporters just don't get it. They continue to try to paint the Tea party movement as an arm of the right, or a bunch of disgruntled republicans. It won't work, the movement isn't about the political parties, it's about a real change, a change the incumbants better realize is coming their way.

I hope the incumbants can smell the tea brewing. They'll have plenty of time to sip the tea, while they waste away the hours at home, trying to figure out what they did wrong after 2010.

It's pink slip time baby....
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