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Originally posted by MAB19
reply to post by Pocky
well from my experience with kundalini,i think i know what he trying to say....i had a spontaneous awaking and i didnt know wtf was going on and i was scared ****less....I use to fight because i thought it was evil or i was dieing which resulted in panic attacks, seizures, overwhelming energy.Then at one point i just let go and all that went away.So i think thats what he means in a sense based on what ive been thru but im just as clueless as you on whats will or will not happen
My understanding is that it is the 'Earth' that is ascending.
Therefore the choice as to when this occurs, will be in the hands of the Earth Mother. There will be a divinely right moment. Earth's ascension is slightly different than most planet's ascensions to the 5th dimension.
Usually, the people of a planet and the planet itself are more or less all ready for ascension at the same time in their evolution. This is not the case on Earth, as the Earth is ready but the entire race is not.
Therefore, it is she who is choosing to ascend - and she will take with her those humans who are ready.===
Ascension is an act of a planet (or person), in this case the Earth, increasing its light to a point where they are able to operate in the 5th dimension and move from existence in a third dimension. Earth is currently a 3rd dimensional planet with the 4th dimension around her. When she ascends, she will become a 5th dimensional planet with a 6th dimension around her.
Anyone not ready, will be guided to other 3d dimensional planets. There they will complete their learning and evolve to a point where they may choose to ascend in their own right.
Originally posted by St Udio
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Originally posted by Pocky
The one thing that sticks out to me is when Miriam Delicado said those who have fear in their hearts will not ascend because the vibration is so powerful it will destroy them- Fear cannot exist in this dimension of a higher vibration.
That does not make sense to me, so if small babies and children are in fear then they will not ascend, or will be destroyed by the higher vibrations?
What about the people who have been severely tortured, who could have been good people all their lives, but yet where tortured into states of chronic fear?
Even good people have been pulled into do bad things, I don't think most souls on this earth are squeaky clean as far as karma goes. Most humans are afraid of the unknown.
Somebody please explain to me this?
I highly doubt that most people on this earth can ascend unless they were the supposed indigo children who have been planted here to change the vibration of the earth, when they had already ben spiritually more evolved then us before they were born.
To live in another dimension as an astral body is the same thing as being a ghost. I'm sensing utter BS. Somebody please explain this to me. It's not adding up to me. Everybody has to learn that what they have sown they shall reap. If you pull everybody into some other dimension of astral bodies, then doesn't that forfeit the learning experience that we need to have on earth? Fear is part of being human by it we know how to survive.
I say that this place of ascenscion can only be for a super human who cannot fear anything and knows everything.
Ghosts are trapped as astral bodies, many times because they are afraid to go into the light, they are afraid that they will be sent to hell for the mistakes they have made in life or other beliefs that they have been fed.
[edit on 31-10-2009 by Pocky]