Researching this changed my mind about a few things.
H1N1 has been around all this time, so Baxter International creating the Swine Flu H1N1 vaccine in 2008, before the "pandemic" started, is no longer
a nefarious act. It seems exactly what a Pharmaceuticals company would do!
Their vaccine used a combination of subtypes and attempted to combine them to create an all-encompassing vaccine.
from the Patent Application, Page 4, section 0056:
"in particular of different strains, subtypes or types such as influenza A and influenza B, in particular selected from one or more of the human
H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N2, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1, and H3N2 subypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7,
H3N8 subtypes" ... it goes on.
My own thread from a month or so ago likely was wrong in it's portrayal of Baxter's intention.
The Science and Etymology of H1N1 Virus, page 1
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Topic started on 31-10-2009 @ 01:27 AM by notreallyalive
Official names: Novel Influenza A (H1N1), Pandemic H1N1/09
Other known names: Swine Flu (no longer correct), H1N1
ETYMOLOGY [1]:
The “H” in H1N1 stands for Hemagglutinin, a viral protein.
The “N” stands for Neuraminidase, also a viral protein.
ALL Influenza A viruses contain an H and an N. The H protein can range in value from 1 to 16; the N protein can range from 1 to 9, [2] e.g. H1N1, H7N3, etc.
Novel simply stands for “new”; a new strain of Influenza A subtype H1N1.
H1N1 is a subtype of Influenza A. Similarly, H7N3 is a subtype of Influenza A.
Finally, there are various strains of each specific subtype: H1N1 which affects humans, and H1N1 which affects pigs, for example.
HISTORY:
Various subtypes of Influenza A affect various animals, for example, H7N3 affects mainly chickens, H5N1 affects many species.
Influenza A is responsible for most flu in humans and about 50% of all human flu is due to the H1N1 subtype [3]. The H1N1 subtype has been scientifically well known throughout history, although since the recent outbreak “H1N1” has become associated specifically with the 2009 so-called pandemic, as we all know. The pandemic which killed between 50 million and 100 million people in 1918 was also an H1N1 subtype endemic to humans (found only in humans) [3]
Before 1977 it is thought all viruses were endemic [6], again, associated with only one species. However, swine seem to be ‘incubators’ for several types of viruses, so a pig can be a carrier for a bird flu which can then be passed on to a human [4]. In 2004, in Canada, Avian H3N3 and H1N1 Influenza A Viruses were isolated from pigs [5].
The significant difference between the 2009 Novel Influenza A (H1N1) and past viruses is that for the first time in history specific sections of the one virus belong to several different species. This means that a strain that was endemic to humans combined with part of a swine-only virus, which also contains parts of a bird flu virus.
IMMUNITY AND VACCINES:
Immunity occurs when having the flu because antibodies are naturally created to fight off the virus; this is how nature balances us and makes us stronger.
A vaccine introduced into the body contains a small amount of either live or dead virus, which our body creates antibodies for, similar to naturally getting the virus. The difference is that a vaccine carries less of, or part of, the viral genetic component so we generally don’t get sick from it.
One significant controversial aspect of current-day vaccines is that adjuvants are added. An adjuvant, such as Squalene, is used to kick the immune system into high gear effectively causing the body to fight itself. This has been done in order that less of the expensive viral component need be used to cause the body to create the necessary antibodies.
Squalene has been associated with several immune and auto-immunity issues including Gulf War Syndrome [GWS]. The World Health Organization has disputed any tie between Squalene and GWS (without scientific citation) but a scientific study published in the American Journal of Pathology [7] has shown significant negative effects of Squalene. Specifically, when rats bred to have arthritis were given Squalene, the rats’ offspring developed chronic arthritis.
CITATIONS AND LINKS:
1 - Influenza A (H1N1): new and official name of swine flu virus, according to the WHO
trendsupdates.com...
2 - Study says wild birds unlikely to bring H5N1 to Americas
cidrapsummit.org...
3 - Influenza A virus subtype H1N1
www.cliffbelleau.com...
4 - Antigenic and genetic characterization of swine influenza A (H1N1) viruses isolated from pneumonia patients in The Netherlands.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
5 - Characterization of Avian H3N3 and H1N1 Influenza A Viruses Isolated from Pigs in Canada
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
6 Origin of Current Influenza H1N1 Virus
www.virology.ws...
7 - The Endogenous Adjuvant Squalene Can Induce a Chronic T-Cell-Mediated Arthritis in Rats
ajp.amjpathol.org...
[edit on 31-10-2009 by notreallyalive]
Other known names: Swine Flu (no longer correct), H1N1
ETYMOLOGY [1]:
The “H” in H1N1 stands for Hemagglutinin, a viral protein.
The “N” stands for Neuraminidase, also a viral protein.
ALL Influenza A viruses contain an H and an N. The H protein can range in value from 1 to 16; the N protein can range from 1 to 9, [2] e.g. H1N1, H7N3, etc.
Novel simply stands for “new”; a new strain of Influenza A subtype H1N1.
H1N1 is a subtype of Influenza A. Similarly, H7N3 is a subtype of Influenza A.
Finally, there are various strains of each specific subtype: H1N1 which affects humans, and H1N1 which affects pigs, for example.
HISTORY:
Various subtypes of Influenza A affect various animals, for example, H7N3 affects mainly chickens, H5N1 affects many species.
Influenza A is responsible for most flu in humans and about 50% of all human flu is due to the H1N1 subtype [3]. The H1N1 subtype has been scientifically well known throughout history, although since the recent outbreak “H1N1” has become associated specifically with the 2009 so-called pandemic, as we all know. The pandemic which killed between 50 million and 100 million people in 1918 was also an H1N1 subtype endemic to humans (found only in humans) [3]
Before 1977 it is thought all viruses were endemic [6], again, associated with only one species. However, swine seem to be ‘incubators’ for several types of viruses, so a pig can be a carrier for a bird flu which can then be passed on to a human [4]. In 2004, in Canada, Avian H3N3 and H1N1 Influenza A Viruses were isolated from pigs [5].
The significant difference between the 2009 Novel Influenza A (H1N1) and past viruses is that for the first time in history specific sections of the one virus belong to several different species. This means that a strain that was endemic to humans combined with part of a swine-only virus, which also contains parts of a bird flu virus.
IMMUNITY AND VACCINES:
Immunity occurs when having the flu because antibodies are naturally created to fight off the virus; this is how nature balances us and makes us stronger.
A vaccine introduced into the body contains a small amount of either live or dead virus, which our body creates antibodies for, similar to naturally getting the virus. The difference is that a vaccine carries less of, or part of, the viral genetic component so we generally don’t get sick from it.
One significant controversial aspect of current-day vaccines is that adjuvants are added. An adjuvant, such as Squalene, is used to kick the immune system into high gear effectively causing the body to fight itself. This has been done in order that less of the expensive viral component need be used to cause the body to create the necessary antibodies.
Squalene has been associated with several immune and auto-immunity issues including Gulf War Syndrome [GWS]. The World Health Organization has disputed any tie between Squalene and GWS (without scientific citation) but a scientific study published in the American Journal of Pathology [7] has shown significant negative effects of Squalene. Specifically, when rats bred to have arthritis were given Squalene, the rats’ offspring developed chronic arthritis.
CITATIONS AND LINKS:
1 - Influenza A (H1N1): new and official name of swine flu virus, according to the WHO
trendsupdates.com...
2 - Study says wild birds unlikely to bring H5N1 to Americas
cidrapsummit.org...
3 - Influenza A virus subtype H1N1
www.cliffbelleau.com...
4 - Antigenic and genetic characterization of swine influenza A (H1N1) viruses isolated from pneumonia patients in The Netherlands.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
5 - Characterization of Avian H3N3 and H1N1 Influenza A Viruses Isolated from Pigs in Canada
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
6 Origin of Current Influenza H1N1 Virus
www.virology.ws...
7 - The Endogenous Adjuvant Squalene Can Induce a Chronic T-Cell-Mediated Arthritis in Rats
ajp.amjpathol.org...
[edit on 31-10-2009 by notreallyalive]
reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 11:10 PM by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by notreallyalive
Star and Flag for ya, sent you a U2U as well.
Good info you have there !
The H1N1 is said to be impacting the Ukraine harder than most
areas because they are immune compromised due to high
rad levels from Chernobyl.
Some other reasons for lower immune function were given as well.
I think they have a good point in that theory.
I hope some REAL help comes there way and they weather
the storm there in the Ukraine, met some nice ppl from there.
Star and Flag for ya, sent you a U2U as well.
Good info you have there !
The H1N1 is said to be impacting the Ukraine harder than most
areas because they are immune compromised due to high
rad levels from Chernobyl.
Some other reasons for lower immune function were given as well.
I think they have a good point in that theory.
I hope some REAL help comes there way and they weather
the storm there in the Ukraine, met some nice ppl from there.
reply posted on 27-7-2010 @ 05:15 AM by WHOS READY
It did sound fishy when the tv started going on about a pandemic when only a few thousand people had died of bird flu when a million people die of
seasonal flu each year.
it seems the tv was getting the public ready for baxters next trick-
100. It is still not clear how 72 kilograms of the world’s deadliest bioweapon can be sent by accident from a high biosecurity facilities, not irradiated and under a false label.
101. However, we know from Baxter itself that it produced the 72 kilograms contaminated material using a wild type live bird flu virus obtained from the WHO reference center.- healthfreedoms.org... the information comes from the official austrian governments website.
it seems the tv was getting the public ready for baxters next trick-
100. It is still not clear how 72 kilograms of the world’s deadliest bioweapon can be sent by accident from a high biosecurity facilities, not irradiated and under a false label.
101. However, we know from Baxter itself that it produced the 72 kilograms contaminated material using a wild type live bird flu virus obtained from the WHO reference center.- healthfreedoms.org... the information comes from the official austrian governments website.
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