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Topic started on 30-10-2009 @ 10:26 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Once again you have it folks. America's private contractor Blackwater is behind the "terrorist" attacks.
It is time to wake up and realize the wolrd we live in is very similar to the one written by George Orwell's 1984.
The Government CREATES the fear, and then has people kissing their butts to give them more power.
Nothing more to it than that.
presstv.ir...
For the people that will say, "Oh but the source is Press TV."
Get Real.
Here's more sources for the skeptics:
news.rediff.com...
news.ino.com...
news.outlookindia.com...
www.nation.com.pk...
news.in.msn.com...
trak.in...
Not to mention recently Obama's decision to pay the Taliban has miserably failed because they rejected the offer saying, "Allegiance Can Not Be
Bought."
Once again, America and Israel's Mossad are behind almost EVERY terrrorist attack in the world.
Some terrorist attacks happen, and it's not the U.S./Israel, but the MAJORITY is. Especially considering how the U.S. funds the Terrorists.
Stop making excuses for America's terrorist actions around the world.
Wake Up.
PS. I said it before and I'll say it again: In this current time and state ALL military personnel are nothing but mercenaries. They are paid to kill
for the Military Complex and Corporations. There's NO money in peace making...
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:46 PM by Chadwickus
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reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm
All your sources cite a single source, BBC Urdu
All are quoting snippets of an interview from Hakimullah Mehsud, head of the Tehrik-e-Taliban.
Hardly concrete proof.
Can you find the original article where he states these things for us?
Thanks in advance.
[edit on 30/10/09 by Chadwickus]
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:48 PM by LadySkadi
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Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
Once again you have it folks. America's private contractor Blackwater is behind the "terrorist" attacks.
There isn't any solid info. in those links to suggest this, other than an accusation from a Taliban militant. The same source of accusation in each
of the links provided.
It wouldn't be to the militants benefit to accuse Pakistani and US agencies/companies, now would it?
How's that battle in South Waziristan going?
[edit on 30-10-2009 by LadySkadi]
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:52 PM by Ace High
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Don't see any evidence in any of those links.
No proof.
Strong claims but little evidence.
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:17 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:18 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Maybe because Blackwater IS behind terrorists attacks, but some people are just too dumb to get it?
How's the Kool-Aid going for you?
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:18 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Yes you are right. Nothing to see here.
Go back to watching American Idol...
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:21 PM by honkusbobo
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Of course a Taliban representative is going to say BW did it...not that I would necessarily put it past BW...
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:24 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Chad is confused.
He thinks the main stream U.S. media is going to come out and admit it.
Just like how Israel is facing TONS of international crime charges for its evil Zionist racist agendas, and yet people still say, "Oh My Israel Is
the Victim because of the Holocaust."
Yet little do they know that the Holocaust and Nazis IS THE SAME DAMN THING as the Zionists in Israel. They just changed their names.
Apparently, people are too dumb to understand that just because some psychotic group changes their names doesn't mean their agenda changes, and that
now they are better.
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:28 PM by honkusbobo
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People are crappy. What else is new. Whoever goes out looking for "good guys" or "bad guys" in the absolute is barking up the wrong tree.
HOWEVER...
I would say that to claim so-and-so happened without strong evidence hurts the alternative/emerging media's credibility.
Not saying that it didn't happen, just that we can't strongly demonstrate it, much less prove it, and therefore shouldn't make such a big deal
about it.
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:29 PM by jam321
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Seems like all you got is sarcasm, ridicule and a rotten attitude for anybody that don't support your stance.
How do you expect to have a respectful debate on your thread if your not willing to give and take?
It has already been pointed out that all the links you posted lead back to the same source. If somebody offered this to you on another issue like
America is the best, Would you still be willing to accept it as concrete evidence?
You really need to decide if you want to have debates in your thread or not.
As of now, seems you prefer the one way street.
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:29 PM by Chadwickus
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Again one of those articles cites the BBC Urdu interview, you can find and show us all these articles but not the original, why not?
Also, reading the long war journal article, they make a few points:
1) It is humorous that Hakeemullah and spokesman Tariq Azam express shock that the Taliban could possibly be accused of conducting such an attack
on a civilian target, then they turn around and threaten the Pakistani media for "defaming" the Taliban.
2) According to Indian terrorism expert B. Raman, the Taliban may actually have a degree of plausible deniability. "Sources in the ANP [the Awami
National Party, the ruling Pashtun arty in the Northwest Frontier Province] seem to believe that the repeated attacks on civilians in Peshawar are
being carried out by elements in the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and the Islamic Jihad Union (IJU), another Uzbek group, both allied to Al
Qaeda," Raman reported. "This serves the purpose of discrediting the ANP-led Government in the NWFP and at the same time sparing the TTP [the
Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan] of unpopularity for slaughtering innocent Pashtun civilians." Even if the IMU and IJU have targeted civilians
and the Taliban have not played a role (highly unlikely), the Taliban provides them sanctuary and thus are complicit.
3) By blaming "Blackwater," Hakeemullah is tapping into the very dangerous conspiratorial current that is running through Pakistan. Many Pakistanis
believe that US contracting firms are secretly plotting to take over the state and are fighting a shadow war within the country. This conspiratorial
attitude is encouraged by Pakistani officials who insist on blaming the US, India, Israel, and anyone but the terrorists in their own midst who are
actually conducting the attacks.
Pretty good points if you ask me.
Also, keep the personal attacks out of this, it's pathetic.
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:30 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:31 PM by LadySkadi
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Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
reply to post by LadySkadi
Maybe because Blackwater IS behind terrorists attacks, but some people are just too dumb to get it?
How's the Kool-Aid going for you?
Questioning the source (Taliban militant) is now something to take issue with?
Why does it bother you that your opening post is questioned when it has been stated as fact and not as an opinion?
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:39 PM by semperfortis
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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 02:16 AM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Some Information:
1)Why would the Taliban deny attacks?
Because maybe the Taliban really didn't do it. It's actually quite simple. The Military Complex of the Corporations located in the U.S. pull the
strings of the media, so you will almost never hear other sides to the story. After all, let's not forget Osama denied 9/11 when he was accused for
it. Why would he deny it? If he is a "terrorist", then he would want claim to make his "points".
Makes no sense. Sounds to me like it's all 1984 written by George Orwell. The world is divided and in chaos is what you'll hear, but it's actually
people running the country doing it to themselves to create "fear".
2)Talking about the source. There are many sources out there only you can decide which one to "trust". The sources given for anything will ALWAYS be
based on opinions. You are going to hear different stories about other countries if you travel. It's just how that country's propaganda works. It is
all different propaganda to divide the people basing them on race, gender, religion, ethnicity, etc.
This is the main reason for the emerging New World Order that's coming, but it's not what people think it is. The house of cards is falling down
thanks to Internet (who by the way just turned 40).
"Either way, at the end of the night Mind has decided humanities futures, so it's all scripted..."
...When you finish reading the above you should start getting hints on what I'm saying...In the end, everything will be fine, but in the mean time
it's a war on planet earth between Ego and One.
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