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Iran Rejects UN Nuclear Deal

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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Iran Rejects Nuclear Deal


www.ynetnews.com

Iran rejected the UN-drafted nuclear deal, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing American and European diplomatic sources.
A European diplomat told the paper that the Iranian response was basically a refusal. He said the Iranians wish to keep all their uranium, until they purchase nuclear fuel from the West for their research facility in Tehran. The diplomat said Iran's refusal to send out its uranium for further enrichment was no minor detail, as this is the essence of the deal.
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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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This news is just pushing closer and closer to a all out war with Israel and Iran. I no that this news isn't sitting very well the Israelis as they probaly feel threaten by this. I don't want a war with Iran in the least as I feel it will have nothing but bad consequences, but that just seems very unlikely. Also Israel is throwing shots at Russia saying thier helping Iran build the bomb. So it should be interesting in the next few years.

www.ynetnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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Not the same exact topic, but pretty close I posted up today..

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:50 PM
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This deal was doomed to fail before it even started, next are sanctions, and iran have already said that if the US and isreal impose sanctions on iran, they will take it as an act of war..

Its gonna be only a matter of time now before the bombs start dropping, we might have a christmas war on our hands



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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I agree with you 100% it seems that Israel and America wanted war with Iran from the start.

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has handed the Kremlin a list of Russian scientists believed by the Israelis to be helping Iran to develop a nuclear warhead. He is said to have delivered the list during a mysterious visit to Moscow.





“There has been Russian help. It is not the government, it is individuals, at least one helping Iran on weaponisation activities and it is worrisome,” said David Albright, a former weapons inspector who is president of the Institute for Science and International Security.


It's and old article but it goes to show why Iran doesn't want to stop thier nuclear program.

www.timesonline.co.uk... .ece



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 04:51 PM
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How does this equate with the US and Israel pushing for war? Have you not paid any attention to what actually happened?

They offered Iran assistance in building a nuclear power plant -- the same plant that Iran claims it is trying to build and why it needs uranium in the first place -- in exchange for said help, Iran was to ship about 70% of their uranium out of the country. This would leave them with not enough to build nuclear weapon. Keep in mind, Iran can't use the uranium they have now for power. When the plant was buit and operational, Iran would be able to purchase the uranium back.

Iran, in turn, said 'no, screw you'.

Here's the question: If Iran were only planning on using uranium for peaceful purposes -- to provide power to their citizens -- why do they need the other 70%?

They have no power plants now.

This is not a case of the US/Israel wanting war.
This is a case where Iran thinks they can do whatever the hell they want, all while complaining that they are not accepted as legit by the "west".

Give me a break.

I must have missed the "Iran is a saint" memo. Perhaps it was mailed right after they started murdering protestors.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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America offered assistance knowing that Iran would refuse because why would they accept when they could just do it on thier own and not have to deal with everything that comes along with US help? This is just Psyops by the american media painting Iran in a bad light thus altering public opinion. Iran is not the murderous country that you make it out to be, in fact Iran is quite peaceful compared to other middle eastern counties. Thier are some crazy people there but then again there are crazy people in every country of the world. Your letting your opinon be manipulated by the MSM thus repeating thier talking points for them.

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
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They offered Iran assistance in building a nuclear power plant -- the same plant that Iran claims it is trying to build and why it needs uranium in the first place


Why would they accept help now, the plant is finished and ready to fuel as far as I know..?


Keep in mind, Iran can't use the uranium they have now for power.


Any source for that, because as far as I know the uranium they have is ideal for power generation.



Here's the question: If Iran were only planning on using uranium for peaceful purposes -- to provide power to their citizens -- why do they need the other 70%?


To provide more power? I don't think one power station is going to supply the whole country.



This is not a case of the US/Israel wanting war.
This is a case where Iran thinks they can do whatever the hell they want, all while complaining that they are not accepted as legit by the "west".


They can do whatever the hell they want. It's their right to enrich uranium and build power plants under the NPT.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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Ron Paul: Placing Sanctions on Iran is an Act of War! (Foreign Affairs Committee Hearing) 10/28/09


You can't just impose sanctions on one country and not EVERYONE

What in the world is going on here>?



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 05:38 PM
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The word you are mis-using should be "there" which indicates a place. "Thier" is a misspelling of "their" which is a possessive pronoun.

It is really difficult to take your comments as credible when one does not know the difference between "their" and "there".

Sorry if you are offended but this is one of my pet peeves.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by vBreezo]



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 05:45 PM
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"why do they need the other 70%?"

Why does everyone always think Iran is a baby and must provide details to the paranoid West in order to carry out their energy research within their OWN borders? I could start asking frivolous questions about Israel and America too. I'm pretty sure its their own... so uh I'm pretty sure they have a right to keep their uranium. Some of you come off as they don't even have a right to be sovereign! You're just begging for a war, aren't you?

"This is a case where Iran thinks they can do whatever the hell they want"

Iran CAN do whatever the hell it wants in its own borders and sovereignty, do you understand how communistic and hypocritical it is to think otherwise? Why MUST they bend to pressure from the West? Give them the benefit of the doubt... since there's NO proof they are NOT building peaceful nuclear energy. My gosh... you people get frustrated when sovereign countries say NO, I imagine you're one of those people who cry when your government bends to foreign powers... but deny the sovereignty of Iran.

"Perhaps it was mailed right after they started murdering protestors. "

Every government gets rid of dissents, America and Israel just does it sophisticated and covert ways. This bears no relevance to the topic, however. I feel sorry for those who died in the Iranian protests, as much as I feel sorry for the victims of the USS liberty. I guess you'll only use the misfortune of others to propel your politics.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 07:39 PM
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Iran must figure that Russia can't let them fall or it would lose control of the Caspian Sea area. This seems to be pretty good figuring as far as I think.

In other words Russia has no choice but to back Iran. If there is any hesitation on the West's part on Iran it is not because of some newfound sense of decency. If it starts up no quarter will be given. There will be no consideration of civilians or collateral damage once the bombing starts.

Putin does not seem likely to let Iran go it alone. I am a patriotic American but if I was advising Iran (ha) I would have to tell them not to cooperate.

That guy from Iran who is always shooting his mouth off doesn't want to end up hanging from some hotel balcony. Neither does Putin. If Iran falls, Russia is next on the list. That's the way I see it.
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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ignorance Denied
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This deal was doomed to fail before it even started, next are sanctions, and iran have already said that if the US and isreal impose sanctions on iran, they will take it as an act of war..


LMAO I bet....

Do you think Iran would strike 1st??? That's EXACTLY what USrael wants..
An excuse.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by Bcs8484
 


How does this equate with the US and Israel pushing for war? Have you not paid any attention to what actually happened?

They offered Iran assistance in building a nuclear power plant -- the same plant that Iran claims it is trying to build and why it needs uranium in the first place -- in exchange for said help, Iran was to ship about 70% of their uranium out of the country. This would leave them with not enough to build nuclear weapon. Keep in mind, Iran can't use the uranium they have now for power. When the plant was buit and operational, Iran would be able to purchase the uranium back.

Iran, in turn, said 'no, screw you'.

Here's the question: If Iran were only planning on using uranium for peaceful purposes -- to provide power to their citizens -- why do they need the other 70%?

They have no power plants now.

This is not a case of the US/Israel wanting war.
This is a case where Iran thinks they can do whatever the hell they want, all while complaining that they are not accepted as legit by the "west".

Give me a break.

I must have missed the "Iran is a saint" memo. Perhaps it was mailed right after they started murdering protestors.


Which protesters were murdered by the iranians?, I must have missed where the govt of iran was found guilty by anyone but the western media.

More nations (over 118) world wide support Iran, than don't. Why so much support for iran?, maybe because its obvious the US and israel lack any case or authority to meddle in other nations business.

118-nation Nonaligned Movement backs Tehran Link here

..and compared to the us govt who has starved & killed millions with sanctions and wars of choice, irans govt is a sweetheart.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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I think Iran wants America and Israel to strike first because that would gain the sympathies of the world. They may even get military support from Russia who knows. America would be making another huge mistake by attacking Iran first I believe. They would be doing exactly what the Iranians want. It truely is great strategic plan by Iran if you look at it without any bias.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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Iran must figure that Russia can't let them fall or it would lose control of the Caspian Sea area.

Exactly. Russia should man up and protect their own interests... Iran falling like Iraq would screw Russia a lot in the near future because of the caspian sea...

I don't know why Medvedev don't know that... or seems to don't know that....



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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Russia stands firmly behind Iran... that's why Obama, at the orders of his Zionist puppet-masters, have been trying to please Russia to get them on board. Iran is strategically important for China and Russia. It's do or die for China and Russia if Iran is attacked. I'm sure with the apartheid State of Israel and their whining out the way, Iran might have been extended SCO membership.



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 09:46 PM
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Its big game of chess. Lets see what the next move is before we condemn the US, Israel, Russia or Iran.

Besides, we have Barrack Obama controlling the US now. What could possibly go wrong???



posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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According to the diplomatic sources, the Iranians refused to go along with the main clause of the draft agreement: A provision that would have required the country to send about 75% of its stockpile of low-enriched uranium to Russia to be processed and returned to Tehran.





“The key issue is that Iran does not agree to export its lightly enriched uranium,” the official said. “That’s not a minor detail. That’s the whole point of the deal.”

American officials said they believed the deal would buy them a year or so to reach a broader nuclear agreement, which they hoped would also defuse chances that Israel may try to strike the Islamic Republic's nuclear facilities.


To the point that I made earlier about the US knowing that Iran would reject the deal..




The Obama administration expected Iran to reject the deal, and in recent days International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei made secret trips to Washington to discuss how to move forward if this does happen.


www.ynetnews.com...



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