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Originally posted by Aggie Man
On the subject of driver's license...at least, if they can get a license...then they can buy insurance...that's not to say that they always do...but no license = no insurance.
Originally posted by Night Star
Open borders allows murderers, gangs, pedophiles etc. to come through.
Originally posted by Anti-Evil
BUT, IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:
A DRIVERS LICENSE
A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
AND, FREE HEALTH CARE?
Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to. The file has been mushrooming ever since: $189 billion worth of wages ended up recorded in the suspense file over the 1990's, two and a half times the amount of the 1980's. In the current decade, the file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes. In 2002 alone, the last year with figures released by the Social Security Administration, nine million W-2's with incorrect Social Security numbers landed in the suspense file, accounting for $56 billion in earnings, or about 1.5 percent of total reported wages. Social Security officials do not know what fraction of the suspense file corresponds to the earnings of illegal immigrants. But they suspect that the portion is significant. "Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes," said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security's chief actuary, using the agency's term for illegal immigration.
One reason is that many undocumented workers pay taxes during their work lives but don’t collect benefits later. Another is that undocumented workers are entering the United States at ever younger ages and are expected to have more children while they’re here than if they arrived at later ages. The result is a substantial increase in the number of working-age people paying taxes, but a relatively smaller increase in the number of retirees who receive benefits — a double boon to Social Security’s bottom line.
And in a 2007 report, the White House Council of Economic Advisers asserted that, over the long haul, immigrants end up paying off: The long-run impact of immigration on public budgets is likely to be positive. Projections of future taxes and government spending are subject to uncertainty, but a careful study published by the National Research Council estimated that immigrants and their descendants would contribute about $80,000 more in taxes (in 1996 dollars) than they would receive in public services. The overall effect, the council said, is a bit of a wash -- and a minor one at that: The long-term fiscal approach imparts four main lessons: 1) although subject to uncertainty, it appears that immigration has a slightly positive long-run fiscal impact; 2) skilled immigrants have a more positive impact than others; 3) the positive fiscal impact tends to accrue at the federal level, but net costs tend to be concentrated at the state and local level; and 4) the overall fiscal effect of immigration is not large relative to the volume of total tax revenues – immigration is unlikely to cure or cause significant fiscal imbalances.
Originally posted by anotherdad
reply to post by Aggie Man
You may live in the same world but clearly a different reality. Ask your mommy and daddy if i can have some more money too.
Originally posted by Night Star
With millions of un-employed legal citizens, it is a slap in the face for illegals to be able to hold jobs.
Originally posted by chiron613
But people are starving, dying of preventable or curable illnesses, subjected to oppression and violence, in order for us to have our SUV's, cable, McDonalds, and other frivolous and even unhealthy habits. That, I have a problem with.
Originally posted by andrewh7
Stop spreading lies and gross exaggerations, perpetuating fear and hatred. The US has a severe labor shortage in the agriculture industry - what we need is a better guest worker program, not a billion dollar fence.
[edit on 31-10-2009 by andrewh7]