Very interesting about these things... all too many coincidences happening right now.
If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is!
Originally posted by Chadwickus
I dunno, but I have to ask why would they need to draw up a patent for creating swine flu in 2005 when the flu has been around since the 1900's.
Even though health officials are calling this new virus H1N1, that's also the type of virus that's in wide circulation today. And it has an interesting history. It was the dominant flu virus through the 1920s, '30s and '40s. Oxford says it disappeared in 1957, when it was displaced by another flu virus. But then a strain of H1N1 suddenly reappeared in 1977.
"Now where could it have come from?" he asks. "We reckon now, in retrospect, it was probably released accidentally from a laboratory, probably in northern China or just across the border in Russia, because everyone was experimenting with those viruses at the time in the lab."
It was nothing malicious, Oxford believes, just some flu vaccine research that broke out of containment. The descendents of this virus are still circulating. He notes that most people who have encountered the newly emerged H1N1 virus seem to have developed only mild disease, and he speculates that's because we have all been exposed to a distant cousin, the H1N1 virus that emerged in the 1970s.
"That escaped virus perhaps will provide some benefit now in the face of this pig thing," Oxford says.
Swine Flu Virus Created from Pig Vaccine?
The swine flu virus had three parents from two continents and appeared suddenly without warning, evading all routine flu surveillance and quarantine; sequence data suggest it may have been created from a faulty vaccine given to pigs in North America Prof. Adrian Gibbs and Dr. Jean Downie ....
Richard Webby, PhD, an associate member in Infectious Diseases, has been named director of the World Health Organization (WHO) Collaborating Center for Studies on the Ecology of Influenza Viruses in Lower Animals and Birds.
Robert Webster, PhD, who holds the hospital’s Rose Marie Thomas Chair in Infectious Diseases, has been at St. Jude since 1968. He has headed the lab since 1975 and recommended to the WHO that the position be transferred to Webby.
Originally posted by libertytoall
. . . You would want to patent the virus to have rights to vaccines would you not? . . .
There may be many reasons for the individual scientists to work on this project, not least the scientific prestige - the"Spanish flu" subject matter practically guaranteed a series of publications in prestigious journals. From an arms control perspective it appears to be particularly sensitive if a military research institution embarks on a project that aims at constructing more dangerous pathogens - if Jeffery Taubenberger worked in a Chinese, Russian or Iranian laboratory, his work might well be seen as the "smoking gun" of a biowarfare program.
Originally posted by Esoterica
LOL, I love getting URGENT U2U messages from the staff to go to threads like this, and see that it's a whole lot of nothing based on not reading the whole thing and not understanding what you're reading.
No wonder I've almsot stopped coming here. Way to go ATS