Scientist, who heads WHO laboratory on influenza holds patent for bioengineered swine flu virus, page 3


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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 12:31 AM by conspiracyrus
reply to post by TeslaandLyne



that could very well be possible, but from the basis of the application itself its pretty straight forward they really did want to make a vaccine for pigs. You never know though when man gets involved things tend to be unpredictable


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 12:36 AM by Chadwickus
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So that would be spreading mis-information.

Why don't you actually READ the whole patent.

Please.



reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 12:43 AM by Asphodelven
ah ambiguity

www.wired.com...

"What are you working on?
We're looking at ways to induce broader immunity by stimulating other parts of the immune response. And we're using reverse genetics to try to understand how flu transmits from one species to another. We start with a virus that doesn't transmit, replace parts of its genome with genes from one that does, and try to identify the genes responsible."



I don't know... maybe these guys are actually heros. You have to admit they are in a position of extreme responsibility... and possibly that translates into power. I believe the virology department at st judes appears to be at the top of the heap in learning and in the extent of their "library" of virus genomes.

I suppose, that if anyone were in a positon to suspect that something was amiss, or unnatural about the current h1n1 novel-type, or its coverage in the media, it would be them

www.wanttoknow.info...


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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 12:57 AM by conspiracyrus
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uh yeah bud id drop that vid from youtube if you read the whole thing like i stated in previous posts its for vaccinating pigs ... and they didnt just poof make a virus appear they took a culture from a pig , i mean please just take the vid down


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 01:29 AM by conspiracyrus
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for bio engineering a virus to be less reproductive , not really. and the particular virus they are talking about didnt emerge until 1995


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 01:58 AM by Asphodelven
I think the primary thing is that the public knows that bioengineering of any kind has been performed on this virus within the last few years.

So, the patent is ostensibly for a pig vaccine. No argument there. There is confirmable human technological manipulation of the H1N1 virus here, shortly before a pandemic.

It is the "pig" version of H1N1, does that render this evidence irrelevant? Not hardly. I'm going to guess that the "human" and "porcine" versions of this bug are only a splice away from each other, and this was being done in the hands of people who by their own admission know exactly which genes need to be tweaked to allow inter-species transmission.

Am I accusing St Judes staff or virologists of foul play? Not at all, I would almost say never.
But it is not impossible to imagine that their knowledge or techniques could be easily shared with government or high-level corporate operatives, or Jesuits, or Nakhash or Ancient Assyrian Astronauts.

And if it was happening there, odds are it could just as easily have happened elsewhere.

It's very close to.... something.

Something we would never have been told by big brother corporate media or read in the sunday times magazine until 30 years after the fact...
the H1N1 virus was being bionengineered in our own borders in recent times. that's enough to me, to absolutely not ever want to have even an "attenuated" version injected into my body

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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 02:08 AM by conspiracyrus
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That is an implication to be left to a reputable scientist not for the public to decide, and speaking on my own behalf im not qualified to make a judgement on cross species variants of h1n1, or the origin of the novel h1n1 that is currently spreading.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:18 AM by Stormdancer777
www.baxterbiotherapeutics.com...

Location, The Ukraine?

www.youtube.com...




The New York Times
Less than two months after ascending to the United States Senate, Barack Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in two speculative companies whose major investors included some of his biggest political donors.

One of the companies was a biotech concern that was starting to develop a drug to treat avian flu. In March 2005, two weeks after buying about $5,000 of its shares, Mr. Obama took the lead in a legislative push for more federal spending to battle the disease.


www.assatashakur.org...


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:52 AM by LouisPasteursDog
Swine flu roots traced to Spanish flu

www.cbc.ca...

An old article at CBC's website discussing the similarities between the various strains.

Its interesting to note that the Spanish Flu pandemic coincides with soldier returning home from WW1.

There was a mass PR vaccination campaign underway during the summer of 1918. The population of the allied nations were vaccinated to protect themselves from the diseases the troops would bring home from the trenches.

CBC estimates 25 million people died from the Spanish Flu.. My take on our current global "hypeflu", is that someone is capitalizing on a seasonal phenomenon (the flu) and manipulating the public's perception to accept a vaccine where one normally wouldn't.

The vaccinated will spread the disease( the real one now, not the seasonal flu that everyone had) at a rate of .5 - 1.6% (CDC website).

I would say that the real sickness will be seen in a couple months once the "real swine flu" gets its legs up and running..

Just a side note, they are not testing anyone in Ontario.. Everyone that has even a sniffle is being told its swine flu.. I assume that standard operating procedure everywhere...
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