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Scientist, who heads WHO laboratory on influenza holds patent for bioengineered swine flu virus

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posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 12:20 AM
I made a youtube video showing this patent, just to get INFO SPREAD. I know its not a great video but please help me distribute it or make a better one yourself!! this is not about ego, i just want to help this info get spread.. People need to know!

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 12:31 AM
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

that could very well be possible, but from the basis of the application itself its pretty straight forward they really did want to make a vaccine for pigs. You never know though when man gets involved things tend to be unpredictable

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 12:36 AM
reply to post by seattletruth

So that would be spreading mis-information.

Why don't you actually READ the whole patent.


posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 12:43 AM
ah ambiguity

"What are you working on?
We're looking at ways to induce broader immunity by stimulating other parts of the immune response. And we're using reverse genetics to try to understand how flu transmits from one species to another. We start with a virus that doesn't transmit, replace parts of its genome with genes from one that does, and try to identify the genes responsible."

I don't know... maybe these guys are actually heros. You have to admit they are in a position of extreme responsibility... and possibly that translates into power. I believe the virology department at st judes appears to be at the top of the heap in learning and in the extent of their "library" of virus genomes.

I suppose, that if anyone were in a positon to suspect that something was amiss, or unnatural about the current h1n1 novel-type, or its coverage in the media, it would be them

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posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 12:57 AM
reply to post by seattletruth

uh yeah bud id drop that vid from youtube if you read the whole thing like i stated in previous posts its for vaccinating pigs ... and they didnt just poof make a virus appear they took a culture from a pig , i mean please just take the vid down

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 01:27 AM
The patent says it was applied for in 2005 so the vaccine for pigs is an upwards of 70 years late, swine flu cases were found in pigs as early as the 1930's in America and an out break in the mid 1970's. I find it strange, they can make a vaccine for people in months of discovering an entirely new strain of swine flu , but it takes that long for one for pigs?

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 01:29 AM
reply to post by holyhackjack

for bio engineering a virus to be less reproductive , not really. and the particular virus they are talking about didnt emerge until 1995

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 01:58 AM
I think the primary thing is that the public knows that bioengineering of any kind has been performed on this virus within the last few years.

So, the patent is ostensibly for a pig vaccine. No argument there. There is confirmable human technological manipulation of the H1N1 virus here, shortly before a pandemic.

It is the "pig" version of H1N1, does that render this evidence irrelevant? Not hardly. I'm going to guess that the "human" and "porcine" versions of this bug are only a splice away from each other, and this was being done in the hands of people who by their own admission know exactly which genes need to be tweaked to allow inter-species transmission.

Am I accusing St Judes staff or virologists of foul play? Not at all, I would almost say never.
But it is not impossible to imagine that their knowledge or techniques could be easily shared with government or high-level corporate operatives, or Jesuits, or Nakhash or Ancient Assyrian Astronauts.

And if it was happening there, odds are it could just as easily have happened elsewhere.

It's very close to.... something.

Something we would never have been told by big brother corporate media or read in the sunday times magazine until 30 years after the fact...
the H1N1 virus was being bionengineered in our own borders in recent times. that's enough to me, to absolutely not ever want to have even an "attenuated" version injected into my body

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posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 02:08 AM
reply to post by Asphodelven

That is an implication to be left to a reputable scientist not for the public to decide, and speaking on my own behalf im not qualified to make a judgement on cross species variants of h1n1, or the origin of the novel h1n1 that is currently spreading.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 02:21 AM
I'm not arguing with you at all.

But leaving it up to some self-appointed priest class to divvy out what the rest of
the public is and is not permitted to know about, anything that might have any effect whatsoever on their own wellbeing and state of autonomy, is something other than the spirit of living in a free society. we aren't children or slaves.
we also aren't guinea pigs, test subjects, cannon fodder or human resources.
it's the reason that sites like this have to exist.

Why should things be hidden from us? So that we remain productive, useful or orderly until the final shear?

I'm going to calm down now because it is apparent I am sublimating an entire worldview into this one, microscopic issue and I don't even know if its making much sense anymore... its quite late here.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 03:00 AM

Originally posted by Maddogkull
Well it’s either a matter of some things.


2) the vaccine is meant to help us, and there planning to take out the rest of the population that doesn’t get the vaccine


Thats a good point, i hadnt thought of that. There will be billions of people who the vaccine is not given too, if 'they' wanted to wipe out a large portion of the human race, who would be the targets ?

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 06:06 AM
hmmm get quick rich right fast while useless eater, gets thrown to the side, build my tower son's of baliel, the york missionary is entering rockafella plaza and this is a hallarious moment!!!

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 06:33 AM
white lab coats do not equal pure white whool of a lamb or maybe the white is the coat of a goat...

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 06:35 AM
I wonder what information is in the claims that have been removed - does anyone know if there are any ways to aquire the said claims? The fact that we have this patent information, is unusual enough... I'd doubt it's the 'whole picture' as such.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 07:36 AM
I'm sure there is a direct or indirect connection to all the scientists (microbiologists, Virologists, geneticists) that died under strange circumstances. Remember? Sure people die, but that many and in groups with the same field of expertise?

Perhaps the ones that died didnt want to play ball might squeak.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 08:16 AM
Yeah people, this is a patent for a vaccine..

Either you didn't read it, or you read it but didn't understand it.

Fear gets the best of people sometimes.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 08:18 AM

Location, The Ukraine?

The New York Times
Less than two months after ascending to the United States Senate, Barack Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in two speculative companies whose major investors included some of his biggest political donors.

One of the companies was a biotech concern that was starting to develop a drug to treat avian flu. In March 2005, two weeks after buying about $5,000 of its shares, Mr. Obama took the lead in a legislative push for more federal spending to battle the disease.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 08:52 AM
Swine flu roots traced to Spanish flu

An old article at CBC's website discussing the similarities between the various strains.

Its interesting to note that the Spanish Flu pandemic coincides with soldier returning home from WW1.

There was a mass PR vaccination campaign underway during the summer of 1918. The population of the allied nations were vaccinated to protect themselves from the diseases the troops would bring home from the trenches.

CBC estimates 25 million people died from the Spanish Flu.. My take on our current global "hypeflu", is that someone is capitalizing on a seasonal phenomenon (the flu) and manipulating the public's perception to accept a vaccine where one normally wouldn't.

The vaccinated will spread the disease( the real one now, not the seasonal flu that everyone had) at a rate of .5 - 1.6% (CDC website).

I would say that the real sickness will be seen in a couple months once the "real swine flu" gets its legs up and running..

Just a side note, they are not testing anyone in Ontario.. Everyone that has even a sniffle is being told its swine flu.. I assume that standard operating procedure everywhere...

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 09:01 AM
So now we know who to get. No. Cool. The sad thing here is that they can openly do these things with out fear of retribution. The man says, "Go back to work. Nothing to see here." And every-body will.

No consequencE..

Thank you.

posted on Oct, 31 2009 @ 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Obviously people don't get the fact that you need to have a virus to create a Vaccine.

I dont know too much about this. Do they really need to engineer the virus to create a vaccine? Cant they get the virus from a infected host?

Influenza vaccine production has not changed substantially since it was first introduced in the 1940s. The new H1N1 vaccine took so long to make because it was manufactured using the usual technique--vaccine specialists identify and isolate the most virulent strains, weaken them, genetically adapt them for growth in birds as well as in mammalian cells, and then inject them into fertilized chicken eggs, where the virus can reproduce without killing its host. Once inactivated, the viral proteins can then be made into a vaccine.


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