well well
next thing you know we'll be figuring out the stimulus bill was really a good idea after all
cheers

Quite clearly it's a conspiracy to force vaccinate and kill large amounts of pigs across the US.

Why don't the people posting these things take the time to read it

Originally posted by ProjectedLogic
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While the presented patent has an 11 digit (20090010962) number.

Edited to say:
I noticed the 11 digit number is the application number, not sure if that makes a difference.

I was wondering about that as well, if you take a look at the two patent apps I posted 2 posts above yours (midway 1st page) they both look very similar in format and look offical to me, despite having different length numbers.

They engineered a strain that would have limited interference with the bodies immune response, and thus be useful in vaccination development. They also claim a anti tumor response.
They make no claim for a killer virus.

On one hand you could say it sounds pretty good, on the other you could say they are playing with fire, (my personal pick) And if you've got another hand spare you could say that the timing is extremely dodgy.

I only skimmed, and picked out what I could understand so I might be off the mark?

Watch out for the H3N2!!!!!

That the flu is a bioweapon is not as important as the fact that the VACCINE is a bioweapon

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What do you think of just the Scitizen article on its own then... it's still quite telling.


All in all that was a great Wellesian moment. I think I shall play a prank on Glenn Beck and Rush Limbauwwgh

hmm...got it
you can see why the combination of those two items just looked all wrong together...what business does the CDC have "creating a pandemic strain"?

�It looks like the H5N1 viruses can�t easily successfully switch genes with human flu viruses: that�s reassuring!�

11 Sep, 2006 11:44 am

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Researchers from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, USA, have combined bird and human flu viruses in order to create a pandemic strain. They reported recently that the hybrid viruses are, at least for ferrets, relatively benign [1]. Richard Webby, virologist at the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, comments on these results for Scitizen.


Why is it interesting to combine genes from human flu virus and the H5N1 bird flu strain? What scenario is being tested?

One of the reasons why we don�t have a lot of human pandemics with these avian strains is that they don�t generally grow very well in humans or transmit between them. One way that we know that these avian viruses can adapt to humans is by getting together with a human virus and mixing gene segments. If we look back at the last 2 human pandemics, the 1967 Asian Flu and the 1968 Hong Kong Flu, those viruses came about by the avian flu virus getting together with the human flu virus and mixing genes (what we call reassortant viruses). So what the CDC researchers wanted to test was whether this could potentially be one of the mechanism by which H5N1 becomes a human pandemic virus. They did this by experimentally mixing the H5N1 virus genes with genes from a human virus and then testing the resulting reassortant viruses to see whether they could grow and transmit in ferrets. The ferret is a model very frequently used as a surrogate for human.�

The recombined viruses were both less deadly than the original H5N1 strain and unlikely to transfer to other animals. What conclusion should be drawn from these results?

The conclusion from this experiment was that it looks like the H5N1 viruses can�t easily successfully switch genes with human flu viruses. That�s reassuring.
We need to keep in mind that there are a lot of different variants of flu viruses, within the H5 or within the human viruses. The limitation with doing the experiment is that you�re� testing one particular bird flu virus with one particular human flu virus. Even though the avian-human virus pair they looked at appeared not to work well together, who knows, there may be others that could possibly do it.���

In late August, the Global Initiative for Sharing Avian Influenza Data was launched. Do you feel that there is a lack of data sharing?

Yes, there is a lack of data and virus sharing. There are a number of reasons, it�s a very complicated issue.

Will you join the initiative?

Yes, certainly. Although we�re not very involved in the ongoing H5N1 sequencing initiatives, where we are, we will certainly follow the Global Initiative guidelines.

Would you say that pandemic vaccine show promises?

The results of the GSK� clinical trial study certainly appear promising: they�ve put an adjuvant with very low amounts of H5 antigen and claim good results [2]. We are eagerly awaiting the presentation of these data from this study. In the earlier trials, and particularly in the first trials in the US, you needed to put a lot of H5 antigen in the vaccine to get a response.
What we�ve seen so far is pretty much what we expected.����

Richard Webby, thank you.

[1] T.R. Maine et al, Proc Natl Acad. Sci. USA doi:10/1073/pnas.0605134103;2006
[2] See GSK's press release

Richard Webby is virologist at the Department of Infectious Diseases of the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Interview by Gilles Prigent

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Yeah no idea about that , sounds bad... if you can find the patent for that ... i will be sure to lend a hand cuase yeah what business do they have of creating virus' that are intentionally virulent

I need someone to describe the ultimate plan...

Re: ProjectedLogics coment about the number of digits

The 11 digit number represents the patent publication number. It's when the patent application is published so other people who applied for similar patents at an earlier date can put in a complaint that the application from a later date may be infringing on the earlier application. The seven digit number is when the patent passes all the tests unopposed and is issued a patent number. The thing is you can file a nonpublication request so that the patent application is not exposed until it passes the patent agents review and becomes an actual patent. They do it with lots of technology and pharmaceuticals. Not sure why this was published since it seems pretty much an admission of the swine flu's existence years before it was on any sort of radar.

The actual filing date of any information relating to this patent application was in 2004 as stated below:

GENETICALLY ENGINEERED SWINE INFLUENZA VIRUS AND USES THEREOF

[0001] This application claims the benefit of U.S. Provisional Application No.

60/576,418, filed June 1, 2004, which is incorporated by reference herein in its entirety.

A provisional application is an initial filing that can pretty much be notes and not a totally formulated invention. It's filed so that the idea is given a date that can be used to show that the invention was already thought of even if it's not even ready to go through the actual formal patent process yet. You are given a year to file the actual application after filing the provisional.

And some one tested it in Mexico.
That's what I want to hear.
But alas I saw no tendency to suspect such an occurrence.
Oh we of trusting minds.