Obama Says U.S. to Lift Ban on HIV-Positive Travelers, page 1
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Topic started on 30-10-2009 @ 12:55 PM by Underworlds
After keeping HIV infected travelers out of the US for 22 years, Obama has decided that it would be beneficial to the image of the widespread virus to allow HIV infected persons to travel into the US.

Bloomberg.com

According to Obama, "it will be a step toward removing the stigma from the disease and encourage testing."

With the ban in place, encouraging testing was only a matter of enforcing the ban and requiring that travelers to the US get tested and provide proof of testing. Now, the encouragement to get tested will come from pure and unadulterated fear that we are being infected by HIV/AIDS by international travelers.

I had an uncle who died from AIDS. I watched as his HIV transformed into AIDS, as his body withered away and became covered in sores. The last memory that I have of him was when I introduced him to the woman that became my wife - he was lying in a hospital bed with tubes snaking throughout his body.

Is this the future of America? Are we to open our doors to all manner of plague and pandemic for the sake of "remoiving the stigma from the disease"?


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:10 PM by tothetenthpower
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Yeah, I didn't even know about this.

If they have a travel ban on people with HIV, then there should be a ban on people with all various other diseases such as Flu's, mental disorders, allergies etc...

I mean come on now, AIDS is no longer a pandemic here and never really was. Africa is different story, but it's not like tourists come here to get laid.

Sad that a stigma over something as simple as HIV has been carried on for so long.

~Keeper



reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 07:53 PM by Underworlds
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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post by Underworlds



Yeah, I didn't even know about this.

If they have a travel ban on people with HIV, then there should be a ban on people with all various other diseases such as Flu's, mental disorders, allergies etc...

I mean come on now, AIDS is no longer a pandemic here and never really was. Africa is different story, but it's not like tourists come here to get laid.

Sad that a stigma over something as simple as HIV has been carried on for so long.

~Keeper


Did you even bother to read the news item?

“We lead the world when it comes to helping stem the AIDS pandemic, yet we are one of only a dozen countries that still bar people with HIV from entering,” Obama said today at the White House. “If we want to be the global leader in combating HIV/AIDS we need to act like it.”


Obama made the announcement as he signed the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009, reauthorizing a federal program that provides HIV-related health care.


That sounds a lot like an open invitation for the infected masses in Africa to hop on a plane, boat, or whatever and to flood into America to take advantage of our health care system.

As for the getting laid part... sex isn't the only way of transmitting HIV. It can be transmitted any number of ways, including blood transfusions. Now, suppose that one of those poor, HIV infected individuals from somewhere in Africa was to find a way into America, and suppose that he was able to slip through the HIV screening process at a blood/plasma donor site in order to pick up on some extra change... use your imagination.

Keep in mind that early stages of HIV can and oftentimes do avoid detection and that blood/plasma donor centers don't always perform the necessary screens. But they do pay people for their plasma.

As far as AIDS no longer being a pandemic here in the USA... I wonder why. Could it be because we have been fighting for 22 years to keep it out of the country while we battle it in those Americans that are infected?


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 08:04 PM by Underworlds
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I just realized something, after reading your reply a third time...

One of the greatest killers of Africans, besides famine, is AIDS. Kenya is literally plagued with AIDS. Obama's family roots are in Kenya...

This is a long-shot, but could this be a step towards America providing health care to Kenyans and other Africans at the expense of American taxpayer dollars? You know, get the infected Africans to come to America for medical treatment and the working class Americans pick up the bill.


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 11:49 AM by nixie_nox
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If you have been anywhere outside the US in any recent time, you can't donate blood. Red cross has pretty tight standards on blood donations, not to mention they screen for HIV.
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