My daughter would have no idea what the "Eye of Horus" was on the top of the pyramid. (Tip - it's completely different from the "All Seeing Eye"
of the Illuminati fame...) To her, that would just be a toy with tons of cool "secret" compartments and stuff. I would look at it as a way for her
to become interested in another culture and a good way to introduce her to ancient history.
The dinosaur book has a 'cola' bottle in many pages. While it could be argued that putting a cola bottle in a kid's book in the age of obesity is
not a good idea, is there a Coke-conspiracy here? Doubtful... Also, last time I checked, I bought the groceries - not my kid.
"Good Teenagers Take Off Their Clothes"? Really? I heard something that might have sounded like that - but to allege that it's a malicious
subliminal message is a stretch... I guess that you could say that since it's a Disney film, and Disney makes their money off of children - that
they'd want more children in the world and thereby they'd encourage kids to get nekked and "do it"... but is that realistic?
I think, rather, I know that my 5 year old wouldn't know what "sex" means and doubt she could even recognize anything in that clip. It's
like looking at clouds - you see what you want to see.
Believe what you want, but I don't see anything to these claims.
As always, I, as the parent, have the responsibility of guiding my kids. As such, they're not going to be the type that's easily steered by alleged
messages in their toys and movies.
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 03:24 PM by siouxm
reply to post by mmiichael
You are kidding, right?
You honestly believe that a cartoon animator should make the cartoon so realistic as to give a man a boner in it?
If it were filmed with real people they would ask the man to leave the set until he got it under control (unless the scene called for it... like a sex scene).
But for a film that is intended for young children, why would it be necessary or even realistic to have a man with a boner in an animated scene? That does not even make sense.
You are kidding, right?
You honestly believe that a cartoon animator should make the cartoon so realistic as to give a man a boner in it?
If it were filmed with real people they would ask the man to leave the set until he got it under control (unless the scene called for it... like a sex scene).
But for a film that is intended for young children, why would it be necessary or even realistic to have a man with a boner in an animated scene? That does not even make sense.
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 03:27 PM by mmiichael
Originally posted by siouxm
reply to post by mmiichael
You are kidding, right?
You honestly believe that a cartoon animator should make the cartoon so realistic as to give a man a boner in it?
If it were filmed with real people they would ask the man to leave the set until he got it under control (unless the scene called for it... like a sex scene).
But for a film that is intended for young children, why would it be necessary or even realistic to have a man with a boner in an animated scene? That does not even make sense.
I think your imagination is running away with you. I never suggested such a thing.
M
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 03:32 PM by siouxm
reply to post by mmiichael
I aopolgize. I must have misunderstood what you meant by this:
"I don't know if the priest in he movie was shown to have a boner intentionally. All males have them at some point. Would it be terrible for a kid to see one represented. And similarly why is it so terrible for kids to see people without their clothes on?
Prepubuscent children children can be sexually aroused. They will be by something no matter how much you try to protect them. Disney makes some attempts to do things tastefully. Would it be better if a kid gets turned on by a rape-murder report in the news?"
What did you mean by that?
I aopolgize. I must have misunderstood what you meant by this:
"I don't know if the priest in he movie was shown to have a boner intentionally. All males have them at some point. Would it be terrible for a kid to see one represented. And similarly why is it so terrible for kids to see people without their clothes on?
Prepubuscent children children can be sexually aroused. They will be by something no matter how much you try to protect them. Disney makes some attempts to do things tastefully. Would it be better if a kid gets turned on by a rape-murder report in the news?"
What did you mean by that?
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 03:50 PM by captaintyinknots
reply to post by mmiichael
Yes, Ive seen that, and snopes.com's debunking of it, where they show the exact pictures of it and then claim its not true.
Pure and total deflective BS.
But, if you arent willing to do the research yourself, you wont be convinced, so whats the point?
Yes, Ive seen that, and snopes.com's debunking of it, where they show the exact pictures of it and then claim its not true.
Pure and total deflective BS.
But, if you arent willing to do the research yourself, you wont be convinced, so whats the point?
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 03:51 PM by PhyberDragon
reply to post by captaintyinknots
In fairness, it is NOT the well versed in symbolism and subliminals which are targeted by these capaigns assuming there is such a campaign and one's mind is not merely seeking patterns based on what they learned in some of their "verses" so since these campaigns are directed at the common Unversed folk I would therefore imagine that the unlearned's viewpoint and take on these supposed campaigns are more vital and productive to this discussion than the expert opinion on such matters. It is not the professional symbologist being asked for his Jungian psycho hokey babel on universal symbolisms, it is Joe blow global workforce, and if he doesn't equate these things with the meanings the expert attributes to them, either the experts behind the campaign are not as expert as they would believe or Joe blow here is telling them their interpretations of the universal meanings of the symbols are wrong. Apparently, Joe and most of the world don't equate gold at the tip of a pyramid to mean secret knowledge of a powerful few but that it simply means gold on the tip of a pyramid, because of this, what could possibly be programmed into Joes mind, since he would first have to agree with the supposition for it to have an affect on the reality within his subconscience. I think he has contributed way more insight into the common man's view than you have.
[edit on 30-10-2009 by PhyberDragon]
It is apparent you are not well-versed on symbolism and subliminals-I'd ask you to refrain from criticizing and ridiculing people when you dont have the knowledge needed on the subject to truly add anything...
In fairness, it is NOT the well versed in symbolism and subliminals which are targeted by these capaigns assuming there is such a campaign and one's mind is not merely seeking patterns based on what they learned in some of their "verses" so since these campaigns are directed at the common Unversed folk I would therefore imagine that the unlearned's viewpoint and take on these supposed campaigns are more vital and productive to this discussion than the expert opinion on such matters. It is not the professional symbologist being asked for his Jungian psycho hokey babel on universal symbolisms, it is Joe blow global workforce, and if he doesn't equate these things with the meanings the expert attributes to them, either the experts behind the campaign are not as expert as they would believe or Joe blow here is telling them their interpretations of the universal meanings of the symbols are wrong. Apparently, Joe and most of the world don't equate gold at the tip of a pyramid to mean secret knowledge of a powerful few but that it simply means gold on the tip of a pyramid, because of this, what could possibly be programmed into Joes mind, since he would first have to agree with the supposition for it to have an affect on the reality within his subconscience. I think he has contributed way more insight into the common man's view than you have.
[edit on 30-10-2009 by PhyberDragon]
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 04:06 PM by daddio
Originally posted by InvisibleObserver
reply to post by kiwifoot
Interesting postI would of like to have a toy pyramid with secret hidden chambers in it when I was a kid, heck I just might go buy that for myself right now. One question tho, in the background art, what is that ring in the sky above the sunset?
Oroboros, Occult/Masonic serpant eating it's own tail. The Illuminati worship this serpant. It is unknown to most of society.
In Occult Geometry A.S. Raleigh examines the symbol of the circle. He write: One form of the circle is a serpant with a tail in it's mouth...It is the return to Unity...The true circle symbolizes evolution, the Serpant Circle involution...the power brings Unity out of diversity....The Serpant Circle is, therefore, ever the symbol of the destructive.
Get the book "Codex Magica" by Texe Marrs, it will explain all that and more about this Masonic symbolism and Satanic Occult artwork.
Notice where the beam of light enters the pyramid. Kids may not pay much attention to all the details but it is enough to "etch" into their brain. Once these things are started it is not a pretty path. I have educated all of my nieces and nephews and their friends to stay away from the Masonic Lodges and the Shriners. Bad people in disguise.
The Washington Monument, a Phalus, in a direct path to the "Oval Office" what do you think that means?
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[edit on 30-10-2009 by daddio]
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 04:14 PM by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by kiwifoot
Even if these messages are there what is the effect? Have you ever heard of someone watching Lion King and suddenly wanting to have all sorts of wild sex? Honestly its the blatant stuff we need to watch out for, sex is sold to us (and our kids) on a regular basis and it doesn't take subliminal stuff to get them interested in it (nature does that on its own at a certain age).
How is a subliminal message in Lion King more sinister than a Bible verse saying "be fruitful and multiply" or an image in a kids Bible that shows Adam and Eve's nakedness hidden behind branches? Or Hannah Montana (I can't imagine the damage she's done to the psyche's of the American youth)
Now I'll admit there may be some subtle effect that attracts you to the product but to me its the blatant and more obvious hiding in plain site thing (like that pyramid, how's that for obvious).
So yeah these things are out there but are they having a measurable effect aside from affecting the subconscious? And that effect to the subconscious, is it devastating or does it just drive us to want to drink coke and watch a lot of Disney films?
Edit to Add:
And what about Barbie dolls and all other teen doll types, here were have a human form that can be stripped down to being naked, typically wears slutty clothing and has no genitalia, who knows what effect that is having. Forget about subliminal stuff, its the blatant stuff to watch out for
[edit on 30-10-2009 by Titen-Sxull]
Even if these messages are there what is the effect? Have you ever heard of someone watching Lion King and suddenly wanting to have all sorts of wild sex? Honestly its the blatant stuff we need to watch out for, sex is sold to us (and our kids) on a regular basis and it doesn't take subliminal stuff to get them interested in it (nature does that on its own at a certain age).
How is a subliminal message in Lion King more sinister than a Bible verse saying "be fruitful and multiply" or an image in a kids Bible that shows Adam and Eve's nakedness hidden behind branches? Or Hannah Montana (I can't imagine the damage she's done to the psyche's of the American youth)
Now I'll admit there may be some subtle effect that attracts you to the product but to me its the blatant and more obvious hiding in plain site thing (like that pyramid, how's that for obvious).
So yeah these things are out there but are they having a measurable effect aside from affecting the subconscious? And that effect to the subconscious, is it devastating or does it just drive us to want to drink coke and watch a lot of Disney films?
Edit to Add:
And what about Barbie dolls and all other teen doll types, here were have a human form that can be stripped down to being naked, typically wears slutty clothing and has no genitalia, who knows what effect that is having. Forget about subliminal stuff, its the blatant stuff to watch out for
[edit on 30-10-2009 by Titen-Sxull]
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 04:17 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by calstorm
I LOVE that doll. Me and a friend listened to the clip and came up with our own sayings.
"Bad Touch Not Right"
"Don't Turn Out The Light"
"The Cake Is A Lie"
"Daddy's in a fight"
"Tuna on rye"
"It's dy-no-MITE!"
"Eagles in flight"
"Dingos don't bite"
"Poetry slam tonight"
"You're not real bright"
"God is a lie"
"It smells alright"
It's garbled noises, and you can hear pretty much anything you want to hear come out of it. Creepy, silly, controversial, nonsensical, but in the end, you're hearing things that aren't being said.
I LOVE that doll. Me and a friend listened to the clip and came up with our own sayings.
"Bad Touch Not Right"
"Don't Turn Out The Light"
"The Cake Is A Lie"
"Daddy's in a fight"
"Tuna on rye"
"It's dy-no-MITE!"
"Eagles in flight"
"Dingos don't bite"
"Poetry slam tonight"
"You're not real bright"
"God is a lie"
"It smells alright"
It's garbled noises, and you can hear pretty much anything you want to hear come out of it. Creepy, silly, controversial, nonsensical, but in the end, you're hearing things that aren't being said.
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 04:31 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by AshleyD
Really? REALLY?!
It's Family Guy and the guy making the video thinks it's an eye-pyramid that's going to corrupt our youth? Nevermind that the episode in question features a talking dog wanting to get it on with a human woman. And... what's that, an occult symbol in a fantasy-based MMO? STOP, no, seriously? OMG!.
Of course it's never explained how this symbol magically influences anyone towards whatever it's supposed to be influencing them towards. Nor is it considered that the image itself is used so frequently because of crap like this video.
Lawdie lawdie help us po'uns out from tha DEBBEL in tha tay-vay!
[edit on 30-10-2009 by TheWalkingFox]
Really? REALLY?!
It's Family Guy and the guy making the video thinks it's an eye-pyramid that's going to corrupt our youth? Nevermind that the episode in question features a talking dog wanting to get it on with a human woman. And... what's that, an occult symbol in a fantasy-based MMO? STOP, no, seriously? OMG!.
Of course it's never explained how this symbol magically influences anyone towards whatever it's supposed to be influencing them towards. Nor is it considered that the image itself is used so frequently because of crap like this video.
Lawdie lawdie help us po'uns out from tha DEBBEL in tha tay-vay!
[edit on 30-10-2009 by TheWalkingFox]
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 04:40 PM by wdkirk
Supposedly, Bill Gates said it best:
urbanlegends.about.com...
Number 8 is my favorite.
You should always want to protect your children as YOU see fit. I am sure MY way is different than your way.
urbanlegends.about.com...
Number 8 is my favorite.
You should always want to protect your children as YOU see fit. I am sure MY way is different than your way.
reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 04:45 PM by SaturnFX
Originally posted by daddio
Originally posted by InvisibleObserver
reply to post by kiwifoot
Interesting post
Oroboros, Occult/Masonic serpant eating it's own tail. The Illuminati worship this serpant. It is unknown to most of society.
And thats only a half truth...yes, the symbolism of a snake eating its tail is a proper ancient symbol that means creation and destruction working together constantly.
The snake grows when fed, but since its feeding on itself, it also is shrinking at the same rate...so its the endless cycle...it is a representation of nature and the natural order of things
-breaks into a song-
The circle of liiiiife....
As far as worshipping...erm, no..Masons do not worship serpents...well, I should say not all masons do. Some worship Serpents, sure. Some worship God, Some worship the mother and father wiccan dietys, etc. Masonic traditions are not a religion in itself, it is a organization built up with the influence of many religions to create a sort of universal meme...there are many levels and many theorys, but ultimately, its a club people tend to join secretly because they want to further themselves with a good networking group.
You could join the masons tomorrow (if you had a person to bring you in and vouch for you), does that mean suddenly your going to be worshipping tail eating snakes?
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