Some Hidden Messages in Toys and Cartoons, Christmas Gifts to avoid!, page 2
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 12:48 PM by fraterormus
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
If I might ask, which generation do you speak of?


Gen-X. Stereo-types aside, Gen-X are the kids that never grew up. Parenting for us is almost like a cross between therapy, being able to undo our own childhood and rewrite it the way we always wished it could have been, and getting a second chance at being a kid and having an excuse to do such without feeling like we are being judged by society.

My parents were Baby-Boomers, and their parents were of the Silent Generation.

However, that's another thing I was thinking about. Gen-Xers have been inundated with advertising since birth, more so than any other generation. Marketers consider them an anomaly because they have always been immune to traditional advertising. That is where Viral Marketing came from, as it was an attempt to target Gen-Xers who developed a natural immunity to advertising from over-exposure to it. Viral Marketing worked the first two times, but ultimately proved to be as ineffectual over the long run.

We tend to worry about the prevalence of Advertising and Subliminal Advertising on our children, but speaking from experience, I'm not too worried about it because I know with over-exposure comes immunity. I might remember all the Advertising Jingles by heart, and sing them in the shower, but they don't influence my decisions, and never have. I want what I want and I buy what I buy without exception. The food I buy is generally Organic despite those catchy jingles from Kraft. The clothes I buy may be Armani and Calvin Klein but only because I got them on clearance at a Thrift Store. The Toilet Paper I buy is whatever is the cheapest that month not because it's Charmin Soft. Honestly I don't need Fabric Softener even though that Bear is so darn cute!

You can't shelter your kids from Advertising. It is on every website they visit, every TV Show and Movie they watch, and on every Billboard you pass, and even in School Textbooks! If you try to shelter them from it, it will have more of an effect on them. If you just let them be over-inundated with it, and explain to them when you are at the store why you don't need Armour Hot-Dogs or a Hello Kitty Purse, they'll learn to be as resilient to advertising as Gen-Xers were...even if we do live by the Toys 'R Us Slogan as the model of our lives ("I don't want to grow up...I'm a Toys 'R Us kid").


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:10 PM by Daniem
reply to post by kiwifoot




See the Golden top, with the Eye of Horus, that represents knowledge, gained by a select few


Its a pyramid, like the ones in egypt. Whats the problem? Your kid isnt beeing brainwashed as far as i can see. The worst thing that can happen is that the kid get an interest in history, ancient egypt etc.



I'm not sure if you have kids, but coke isn't the best idea for them


I dont have kids, but i had coke as a kid.. What has happened to me by drinking it? Why is it a bad idea to have a coke? It tastes good and it isnt dangeous to have one.



yeah, it's a good idea for kids subconscious brains to hear that they should take their clothes off!


Maybe most people dont hear it subconsciossly... but who takes their clothes off because someone in a movie says that



I'll give you that, but even IF it is SFX, it can be read as SEX, which again, cannot be a good thing!


If think you're overly paranoid now.. who got hurt by reading the words SEX? It doesnt do anything... I read the words SFX (special effects), and it didnt stick with me or anything.. i didnt run out to make SFX after the movie or anything..

If i read a headline in a newspaper that says "Murder", what do u think happens realy? Are you realy afraid of these things? I have to just shake my head. You afraid your kids will become zombies or something, SEX!! MURDER! COLA! ARHHH PYRAMIDS!!!


I definitly think subliminal messages exist.. but these ones i've seen here i think is harmless balony.



reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:22 PM by groingrinder
reply to post by Daniem



My sentiments exactly. I could not even hear the part where Aladdin supposedly tells kids to remover their clothes.

Congratulations on one of the best avatars ever!

[edit on 10-30-2009 by groingrinder]


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:34 PM by kiwifoot
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Mate, it's definitely there, turn it up full volume, or get your hearing checked!

Seriously.

But on the other stuff, you're more than welcome to disagree, that's the beauty of ATS, each to their own!


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:39 PM by InvisibleObserver
reply to post by kiwifoot



Interesting post I would of like to have a toy pyramid with secret hidden chambers in it when I was a kid, heck I just might go buy that for myself right now. One question tho, in the background art, what is that ring in the sky above the sunset?









reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:43 PM by kiwifoot
reply to post by InvisibleObserver



Yeah I saw that too, I think it's supposed to be an eclipse.

Stargate maybe!

oh and there's no denying it's a cool toy, or that I want one lol!

But the symbolism is plain to see, even it p's some members off!


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:45 PM by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by InvisibleObserver
reply to
post by kiwifoot



Interesting post I would of like to have a toy pyramid with secret hidden chambers in it when I was a kid, heck I just might go buy that for myself right now. One question tho, in the background art, what is that ring in the sky above the sunset?







Check it out, if you look more closely, that ring is shooting a beam of light that goes through the pyramid and comes out the artwork on the other side.....curious....


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 01:47 PM by kiwifoot
reply to post by captaintyinknots



Now THAT I didn't see, good spotting!

What the heck could that be about?

Oh, and thanks!


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 02:01 PM by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by kiwifoot
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post by captaintyinknots



Now THAT I didn't see, good spotting!

What the heck could that be about?

Oh, and thanks!


It looks like an eclipse to me....I dont know why but I find this very interesting....

on another note, I cant find the clip, but another one to add to the list here: My neice was recently watching "Disney's Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers" on dvd. I used to love that show so I sat and watched a couple episodes with her.

One episode began with the chipmunks watching a tv show, some sort of science show, and the professor told them the experiment they were going to be doing that day. The kid on the show said:"AWWWWW I was hoping we'd be learning how to make explosives out of household chemicals!"

I was shocked. If I cant find the clip, Ill try and get a recording of it later to post on here.....


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 02:37 PM by berrygurrl
reply to post by kiwifoot



GOOD POST! Even though i don't have kids. The thing that always got to me is the whole Ouija Board Game! I can't believe they sell that to children!! That's just a little creepy!


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 02:57 PM by mmiichael
Some research on Disney's attempts to sexual subvert children.

www.animatedbuzz.com...

Disney's Urban Legends ... Revealed

Several urban legends surround Disney's animated feature films and television shows. Perhaps you've heard some of them on the playground when you were a kid. Back then, any juicy rumor was spread like wildfire, true or not. And the Disney stuff was as good as it got. Tales of images of sex and foul language secretly hidden in wholesome Disney films—poisoning the minds of our youth—still persist to this day.

The first of the two stories has to do with a piece of promotional artwork drawn for The Little Mermaid that was used for the movie's theatrical posters as well as a slightly altered version for the original VHS cover art. One of the castle spires in the background bears a striking resemblance to a penis. Look for yourself.

How could this be an accident? What's the old saying? If it looks, walks and quacks like a duck ...

As the story goes, a disgruntled Disney employee found out that he was being fired upon completion of the project, so in one last act of rebellion, he drew the phallus into the cover art.

Compelling story, sure, but it's pure fabrication. Here's the straight facts: The artist who drew the cover art was commissioned for the job and he was not an actual Disney employee. In his rush to complete the cover art, the artist hastily drew the background detail in the wee hours of the morning. It wasn't until someone called him for questioning that the artist even noticed the phallic image.

Needless to say, in later editions of The Little Mermaid, such as on the laser disc cover, the offending spire was removed.

And that's the end of the dongs in Disney flicks ... or is it? Dun, dun, dun.

During the wedding scene—when Ursula takes the appearance of Vanessa—as the bride and groom are approaching the minister, he appears to have an erection. Egads!

That is, without a doubt, an erection, right? Well, not quite. The bulge in the crotch of his pants is actually his knee sticking out from under the tunic. In other frames, it's readily apparent, but in some? Not so much.

One woman actually tried to sue Disney over this "subliminal sex message," but the suit was quickly dropped



My own take on all this, some people must have become exposed to too much sexual imagery as children and become obsessed.


M

[edit on 30-10-2009 by mmiichael]
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