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Originally posted by Gordi The Drummer
So, quick summary of the current situation in Ukraine...
It looks like approx 70 officially confirmed dead from "flu-like" symptoms.
Approx 1/4 million infected with cold/flu-like symptoms.
An official (Deputy Health Minister) announcing that this is NOT the same strain of H1N1 as USA/Mexico, therefore is likely to be a mutated strain.
Many of the dead appear to have indications of viral pnemonia, possibly as a result of weakened immune systems from the initial mutated H1N1 attack.
The (likely) specific mutation, (or any other cause) has not been identified yet.
Is this a fair summary? Anything missed out? Anything to add?
On 29 October, the Ukrainian Health Ministry announced an outbreak of the A (H1N1) (Swine Flu) virus in western Ukraine . As of 1 November, there are reports of up to 191,000 people being infected, with up to 67 deaths. Nine regions of western Ukraine have been "quarantined". On arrival in Ukraine, those who are suspected of showing symptoms of A (H1N1) and those who have had contact with them are likely to be isolated and the medical authorities informed. This may cause delays at airports and other border crossings.
Originally posted by Amagnon
I don't need a damned stamp or brand - I'm not property.
Everyone is obliged to pay taxes and levies in accordance with the procedure and in the extent established by law.
All citizens annually file declarations with the tax inspection at their place of residence, on their property status and income for the previous year, by the procedure established by law.
Officials in Ukraine have closed schools for three weeks, imposed travel restrictions and are limiting public events as the country battles to stop the spread of swine flu.
Originally posted by ecoparity
The virus overcame Tamiflu months ago, do you want the US to send some useless Tamiflu also?
Originally posted by Trayen11
I have a general "what if" question maybe some of the smarter people here can help me with.
If it is indeed shown that this outbreak in the ukraine is in fact a mutation and virulant and deadly strain of H1N1. Is it not way to late to be able to properly stop the spread of this new strain?
If I understand it correctly ukraine borders have not all been properly closed not to mention I was informed thier airline and trains are still running.
Just wondering what exactly we are going to be able to do to stop such a mutation from spreading very fast considering proper quarenteen protocols have not been taken.
Also, how long until we find out if this "mutation" (if thats what it is) has spread outside ukraine borders. My understanding is if it starts to show up in other countires, then there is basically nothing we will be able to do to stop it's spread by then.
Is my reasoning correct here?
As of the moment I am not prescribing to the notion that this is the plague. Not without proper documentation or proof. but thats just me.
Edit to put last sentence in there.
[edit on 11/3/0909 by Trayen11]
Originally posted by dreamseeker
They could have contained it in the begginning.
Originally posted by ahemot
CDC recommends using Tamiflu:
At this time, treatment with oseltamivir (trade name Tamiflu®) or zanamivir (trade name Relenza®) is recommended for all people with suspected or confirmed influenza who require hospitalization.
Oh, I forgot that CDC is lying too
Nethertheless, it is better to keep this "useless Tamiflu" for themselves (just in case ) than to send it to "second-class" Ukrainians.
Originally posted by asen_y2k
Just spoke to my my therapy(internal medicine) teacher who was in a meeting with Health Misnistry yesterday.
He is a busy man so I did not get much details out, these are the words he used-
Situation not in control, it is SERIOUS,
We do not know what is going on,
If you can leave the country it is the best option.
We don't know when the situation will be in control.
[edit on 3/11/09 by asen_y2k]