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Originally posted by zeddissad
Another article by W. Engdahl on Ukraine theme. This quote summarize pretty well article content:
The Ukraine deaths attributed by WHO and Ukraine authorities to an uncontrolled outbreak of H1N1 Swine Flu are not the result of H1N1, a virus whose very existence has never been demonstrated by WHO. The deaths appear to be a consequence of collapsing general health conditions as well as supplies of basic grains. The IMF conditionalities imposed on Ukraine as a precondition for a stabilization loan and not Swine Flu is where we should look for the cause.
globalresearch.ca
BTW www.globalresearch.ca is one of my favorite geopolitical site.
Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
I stopped reading around page 100+
Now this thread has reached page 239 ... with all those posts, there must finally be some kind of consensus as to what's been happening in the Ukraine. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to summarize in a few short sentences what this thread has concluded and achieved ?
Originally posted by zeddissad
reply to post by calohan
Now I definitively have TB as important line of reasoning. But still, if I read back this forum, especially early Asens posts from ground zero, there is something more then TB. TB can on other side be reason why Ukraine was struck so hard, but it isn't in my view lonely pathogen at play.
Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
reply to post by marg6043
I'm in agreement with you, marg6043.
Here in Australia a few months ago, we were the 1st country to make the swine flu vaccine available. As far as I'm aware, there has been NO mass stampede by the average guy/gal in the street to their local clinic/hospital/doctor to get their free shot. The government has done virtually nothing to encourage the populace to get the vaccination.
Basically, the swine flu "epidemic" has been a non-event here in Australia. Like yourself, I have not personally seen a single person with confirmed swine flu ... neither has any member of my family or any of my friends. If it hadn't been for the initial media hype leading up to the so-called "pandemic" alert, you could be forgiven for asking "swine flu ? what swine flu ?".
And if swine flu is so "low key" here in Oz, why should we believe that it's radically different in other countries ? After all, Australia is very much a part of the 21st century global community and doesn't exist in isolation from the rest of the world.
So, one can now ask ... has the swine flu had a major impact on the world's population ? The answer has to be NO.
Where are you in Australia, afoolbyanyothername?
Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
reply to post by Kailassa
Where are you in Australia, afoolbyanyothername?
I'm in Adelaide.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not disputing that swine flu exists but here in Adelaide and S.A. as a whole, any panic and wholesale infection attributed to the possibility of swine flu sweeping through the S.A. population has turned out to be nothing short of a complete and utter non-event.
Situation Update No. 54
On 14.12.2009 at 09:21 GMT+2
The number of those who have died of flu and flu-like illnesses in Ukraine has increased to 496 people as of late on Dec. 13, the Ukrainian Health Ministry has reported. Six people have died of flu and its complications (pneumonia) over the past 24 hours, the ministry said. Two people died in Donetsk region, and one each in Kyiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Volyn, and Cherkasy regions. Since the outbreak of the epidemic, over 2.463 million people have contracted flu and respiratory infections, including 19,198 people over the past 24 hours. A total of 147,931 people have been hospitalized since the start of the epidemic (October 29). Of those hospitalized, 117,186 people have been discharged from hospitals. The epidemic threshold of flu and flu-like illnesses has been exceeded in Vinnytsia, Dnipropetrovsk, Kirovohrad, Luhansk, Sumy and Cherkasy regions, and in the city of Sevastopol.
Doctors say Juarez's incessant hack was a sign of what they have both dreaded and expected for years: this country's first case of a contagious, aggressive, especially drug-resistant form of tuberculosis. The Associated Press learned of his case, which until now has not been made public, as part of a six-month look at the soaring global challenge of drug resistance.