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There are many variants to the H1N1.
(95% of the people think there is just one H1N1 - WRONG! )
Why are the powers at large "marketing" one strain out of thousands of H1N1 to circulate tens of millions of doses of a vaccine? What is the real intent behind this "created" event?
What follows is a listing of H1N1 virus strains and as you can see it is no short list. With so many, (thousands) what makes one strain of the Avian Swine Flu H1N1 stand out so much? Primarily a swine virus off-shoot going back to 1937 ?
ANSWER: Good marketing. See how many swine flu viruses you can count on the list. Look at the year each strain was identified and where from around the world it was found as shown in each link.
WHO Confirms D225G Vaccine Failure
Recombinomics Commentary 03:31
November 28, 2009
One isolate from Ukraine with the mutation had changed so that swine flu vaccine probably would not protect against it well, Britain's national medical laboratory reported Friday.
Flus mutate so fast, Dr. Fukuda cautioned, that announcing each change is "like reporting changes in the weather."
The above quote from tomorrow's NY Times piece by Donald McNeil, acknowledges the vaccine failure for viruses with D225G. However, although WHO has publicly confirmed the failure, they don't think an announcement is required. Thus, they continue to offer altering opinions on the significance of D225G, which directs H1N1 to the lung and was present in four of four fatalities in Ukraine.
The associate of D225G with the Ukraine fatalities led to a survey of samples in Norway, where D225G was found in three patients (two who died and 1 who was in serious condition). Similarly, France found D225G in two fatal infections, including one who was Tamiflu resistant.
However, even though this change is drawing additional attention daily, WHO has taken a position that the vaccine failure against H1N1 with this D225G is not worthy of an announcement.
This mindset is significant cause for concern and is hazardous to the world's health.
Originally posted by unicorn1
reply to post by seattletruth
'Atleast we can all agree now that taking the vaccine isn't the smartest choice, the D225G mutation has shown to be resistant.'
Am I missing something? I didn't see an actual consensus on this.
It really depends how widespread the variant is. Some people might argue that the vaccine still offers protection to the original strain and is therefore better than nothing.
Don't get me wrong, at the moment I have no intention of getting the vaccine. I can think of a few reasons not to get the vaccine but I don't understand the one that says that because the D225 mutation is resistant, there is no point in getting it.
Is that what you are saying?
[edit on 30-11-2009 by unicorn1]
WHO's secret game for mass vaccination - a number of advisers have links to the pharmaceutical industry.
Experts working with the pharmaceutical industry - independent external experts on Sages meetings in Geneva has by the Danish newspaper Information revealed to have been receiving money from pharmaceutical companies
WHO experts are being paid by the pharmaceutical companies
WHO experts receive money from the vaccine producers
Originally posted by calohan
reply to post by lithographyman
I have no problem litho. And what about you? And how do you know that Eco is a "he". His picture doesn't look like a he, it looks like a she with a ton of eye make-up, so you must know "him".
Originally posted by lithographyman
reply to post by calohan
I do not personally know Eco, but have always addressed him as "he" and never gotten a correction from him regarding gender.
Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by calohan
What does that mean? Heh.
So scientists can't identify it... so they just lump it in a general group that is deadly to humans, turkeys and pigs? huh?
Originally posted by calohan
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GSK secret contract binds Government to SILENCE !
Dr Eric Beeth 2009-11-02 18:13:41
The Flu Case - I am a Swedish general practitioner working in Belgium, and quite involved in this issue, as together with three citizens and another GP we advised the Belgian Government last Friday in court that this is a disguised pharmaceutical trial on human subjects, with real risks involved.
I put in two comments on the story (see below), that are quite relevant in the context that the Swedish Newspapers have seemingly stopped reporting the intermediary results of this disguised pharmaceutical trial.
If you can read French, you will discover at www.lepoint2.com... medias.pdf that the maker of PandemRix, that is used in Sweden, passed a secret contract, the same in every European country, which specified a "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by Glaxo Smith Kline researchers, and published by GSK themselves.
These contracts also confirm what was announced in Sweden in October, that these pandemic vaccines where actually ordered already back in 2006: there was a standing order to foresee a vaccination for large parts of the population IF the WHO would declare a PANDEMIC of degree 6. When the "New-Type" A/H1N1 appeared, and it started spreading to other continents, the WHO changed their definition of grade 6 pandemic by dropping the criteria that it should be highly deadly. Thus, the government discovered that it’s signed standing orders were passed simply to combat a new (designer!) strain of flu that may or may not become more or less lethal than the common Influenza A or B flu.
This has allowed GSK to do a large scale tolerance experiment of their specially formulated AVIAN-flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix" paid for by the governments, where doctors are recruited for a large scale pharmaco-vigilance study, without being paid as researchers, and patients receive government propaganda to sign up "to protect the weak in our society", while de facto subjecting themselves to be guinea pigs in this "H1N1-dry-run" study for the future benefit of registering GSK's AVIAN flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix".
If you are to receive the "Pandremix" against the benign “new-type” H1N1-flu this season, we recommend that you first learn about the possible side effects, as GSK asked their own employees to sign an "informed consent form" before receiving the vaccine: see for ex: www.asanat.org... [whale copy]
And what an informed consent it was.
Consequently, I the undersigned …………………………………………………………………….. certify that:
• I have been made aware of the risks incurred by this vaccination against the A/H1N1 virus, knowing that a large-scale study will take place during this current vaccination campaign 2009-2010, in order to establish whether the product presents, at its current stage of development, any side-effects in either the short, medium and/or long term;
• I have been informed that my doctor is under obligation to consign personal data relating to me (last name, first name, national register number together with the reference of the manufacturing batch of the product injected) to a centralised electronic data-bank called “e-health” under the auspices of the Belgian government; my doctor will likewise be required to supply additional data relating to the safety of the product over the coming years;
• I have been informed that the manufacturer of the vaccine has obtained legal immunity in the event of the appearance of side-effects, and that I will therefore have no means of appeal against the company GSK; I have also been informed that in the event of unspecified damages relating to this vaccine being brought against me, the law protects the administrator of the vaccine against any legal or administrative proceedings.
I have taken good account of the pros and cons of this vaccine, including the conditions under which it is being launched which constitute a counter-indication for vaccination with Pandemrix, a product containing squalene. I have fully understood the possible consequences, the risks and the benefits associated with this vaccine, and I agree to be vaccinated in full knowledge of these facts.