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Many had asked why the WHO was dragging its feet on Ukraine and I had said they had two major problems. One was "mutation" and the other was Tamiflu resistance and both were happening when deaths were climbing and vaccine was is short supply. Therefore, they would try to keep those two shoes from dropping for as long as possible.
Now both shoes have dropped. The D225G in Ukraine was disclosed, followed by Norway, so the "mutation" shoe has dropped, and now the clsuters of Tamiflu resistance in the UK and NC have come out, so the other shoe has dropped.
Most of the world is as lost as ever. Media hasn't yet figured out that the same "mutation" is in Ukraine and Norway (and worldwide), and they also haven't figured out that the cat was out of the bag on Tamiflu resistance.
In both cases, agencies are still trying to spin "spontaneous mutation" and lack of spread, but those dogs won't hunt.
A vaccine panic is next, followed by real panic.
Originally posted by jedi_hamster
reply to post by Kailassa
baxter belongs to NWO. what's the problem in sacrificing their credibility? i've stated that many times already, what if NWO decided to look as badly as possible this time? what if baxter said that 'yeah, we did it' on purpose? what if it's all staged to make you believe that that is their agenda, to kill you with the vaccines? i'm not saying vaccines are good, and i'm aware of the problems that come with them. but at the same time, this can be the biggest hoax of all times, and you may be manipulated to believe that there's a conspiracy that in reality looks entirely different. also, hit that conspiracy world would receive because of that, would be much bigger than impact made by some folks posting BS on forums and blogs. because, hey, IT'S BAXTER. THEY SAID THEY DID IT, SO IT HAS TO BE TRUE, THEY WANT TO KILL US WITH VACCINES! well, guess what. if that's a hoax, you're all screwed.
Originally posted by wayno
reply to post by jedi_hamster
Of course there is room for much error in trying to determine numbers of people sick, numbers of people who died and even what they died of. There is even sufficient cause to wonder about motives of governments and agencies making reports. None of this questionable.
My only point is, regardless of data specifics, it does seem to me that while mutations and recombinations are occurring on an on-going basis, there appears to remain a mix of pathogens out there that is making people sick, possibly including bacteria that might or might not be sprayed from planes; but there is no one new super bug on the loose that is going to get us all.
Even if one develops, my impression is that it soon enough fades into something less harmful. I am of the impression that the need for vaccinating everyone is just unwarranted hype. Normal common sense precautions and reliance on our innate body defenses should do just fine for the majority of us.
Originally posted by nikiano
Wow....I never thought about them spreading virus to those countries who refused to sign the vaccine contracts, to scare other countries into signing them.
Did you think of that theory? If so, kudos to you. I never in a million years would have thought of that, but in a sick way, it make sense. It's like the terrorists killing the hostages one by one until their ransom demands are met.
Jesus....if that theory is true, that is just scary. Scary beyond all imagination.
If it's not true, it would make a darn good disaster movie.
The Known Facts
Here are the known facts concerning the tetanus vaccination campaigns in Mexico and the Philippines:
* Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.)
But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?
* Human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG) hormone has been found in the vaccines. It does not belong there -- in the parlance of the O.J. Simpson murder trial, the vaccine has been "contaminated."
* The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections -- three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?
* WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier -- the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines.
Originally posted by ecoparity
reply to post by Kailassa
Baxter did not issue contaminated material, they swapped one virus for another.
It was a virus to be used in testing a vaccine that was sent to 4 labs. Someone sent the avian flu sample instead of the swine flu sample.
There was no production vaccine involved and nothing involved was able to infect humans.
Someone made a mistake but this entire story about slipping live bird flu into a vaccine is false. People like Jane Burgermeister are turning it into something completely different.
Did you take the time to read the thread before jumping in? The internal EU documents on this have been posted several times.
Kissinger's 1974 Plan for Food Control Genocide
On Dec. 10, 1974, the U.S. National Security Council under Henry Kissinger completed a classified 200-page study, "National Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests." The study falsely claimed that population growth in the so-called Lesser Developed Countries (LDCs) was a grave threat to U.S. national security.
NSSM 200 similarly concluded that the United States was threatened by population growth in the former colonial sector. It paid special attention to 13 "key countries" in which the United States had a "special political and strategic interest": India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines, Turkey, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mexico, Brazil, and Colombia. It claimed that population growth in those states was especially worrisome, since it would quickly increase their relative political, economic, and military strength.
Food as a weapon . . .
A second measure was curtailing food supplies to targeted states, in part to force compliance with birth control policies: "There is also some established precedent for taking account of family planning performance in appraisal of assistance requirements by AID [U.S. Agency for International Development] and consultative groups. Since population growth is a major determinant of increases in food demand, allocation of scarce PL 480 resources should take account of what steps a country is taking in population control as well as food production. In these sensitive relations, however, it is important in style as well as substance to avoid the appearance of coercion."
"Mandatory programs may be needed and we should be considering these possibilities now," the document continued, adding, "Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?"
Kissinger Report: A Retrospective on NSSM-200
On December 10, 1974, the United States National Security Council promulgated National Security Study Memorandum 200 (NSSM-200), also called The Kissinger Report. This document explicitly laid out a detailed strategy by which the United States would aggressively promote population control in developing nations in order to regulate (or have better access to) the natural resources of these countries.
In order to protect U.S. commercial interests, NSSM-200 cited a number of factors that could interrupt the smooth flow of materials from lesser-developed countries, LDCs as it called them, to the United States, including a large population of anti-imperialist youth, who must, according to NSSM-200, be limited by population control. The document identified 13 nations by name that would be primary targets of U.S.-funded population control efforts.
According to NSSM-200, elements of the implementation of population control programs could include: a) the legalization of abortion; b) financial incentives for countries to increase their abortion, sterilization and contraception-use rates; c) indoctrination of children; and d) mandatory population control, and coercion of other forms, such as withholding disaster and food aid unless an LDC implements population control programs.
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY of NSSM 200
37. There is an alternate view which holds that
a growing number of experts believe that the population
situation is already more serious and less amenable
to solution through voluntary measures than is generally
accepted. It holds that, to prevent even more widespread
food shortage and other demographic catastrophes than
are generally anticipated, even stronger measures are
required and some fundamental, very difficult moral
issues need to be addressed. These include, for example,
our own consumption patterns, mandatory programs, tight
control of our food resources. In view of the seriousness
of these issues, explicit consideration of them should begin
in the Executive Branch, the Congress and the U.N. soon.
National Security Decision Memorandum 314
Care must be taken that our AID program efforts are not so diffuse
as to have little impact upon those countries contributing the largest
growth in population, and where reductions in fertility are most
needed for economic and social progress.
Burnet's solution: The plan to poison S-E Asia
World-famous microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet, the Nobel prize winner revered as Australia's greatest medical research scientist, secretly urged the government to develop biological weapons for use against Indonesia and other "overpopulated" countries of South-East Asia.
The revelation is contained in top-secret files declassified by the National Archives of Australia, despite resistance from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.
Sir Macfarlane recommended in a secret report in 1947 that biological and chemical weapons should be developed to target food crops and spread infectious diseases.
It was further alleged that Project Coast had conducted active research into the fabrication of "ethnic weapons" that would specifically target South Africa's black population.
Kelly was said to be involved in the apartheid regime's most secret project. According to a previous London press account, Kelly was involved in Code-named Project Coast, trying to create a genetically engineered weapon to attack only the country's black population and to develop a vaccine to block human fertility in blacks.
Dr. Kelly had visited the project's headquarters soon after he was appointed in 1972 to be head of the microbiology department at Porton Down, Britain's top-secret biological warfare establishment in Wiltshire.
Other new developments from insiders close to the July 20, 2003, death of Dr. Kelly reveal one he may have been killed due to his knowledge of covert research of the “black only bomb” in South Africa.
Although this has been reported once in a Sunday Express 2004 article, new information is now linking the connection to assignments directly from former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and former Prime Minister John Major.
Kelly was said to be involved in the apartheid regime’s most secret project. According to a previous London press account, Kelly was involved in Code-named Project Coast, trying to create a genetically engineered weapon to attack only the country's black population and to develop a vaccine to block human fertility in blacks.
4 N.C. H1N1 Positive Patients Resistant To Tamiflu
Four North Carolina patients at a single hospital tested positive for a type of swine flu that is resistant to Tamiflu, health officials said Friday.
The cases reported at Duke University Medical Center over six weeks make up the biggest cluster seen so far in the U.S.
Tamiflu -- made by Switzerland's Roche Group -- is one of two flu medicines that help against swine flu, and health officials have been closely watching for signs that the virus is mutating, making the drugs ineffective.
More than 50 resistant cases have been reported in the world since April, including 21 in the U.S. Almost all in the U.S. were isolated, said officials with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The BBC reported another cluster of five Tamiflu-resistant cases this week in Wales, in the United Kingdom.
The CDC has sent three disease investigators to North Carolina to help in the investigation there, said Dave Daigle, a CDC spokesman. CDC testing confirmed the Tamiflu-resistant cases
ALSO, the same mutated virus just TEN miles from me in Central Texas USA! Seems the guy was infected a month ago. Everything sounds the same though.
Originally posted by nikiano
You know, I don't care what the WHO says....I don't believe for a second that this D225G mutation just "spontaneously" mutated in several people in Norway, and in the Ukraine, and is not being trasmitted person to person.
Do they think we're just stupid?