Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?, page 2

reply to post by severdsoul

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We have study groups consisting of 12 students. In the last week 5 of them were seriously sick, with high fever, body aches headache, and cough. I had a mild version which improved on taking Vitamin C megadose and Echinacea. The rest also improved but not fully recovered yet, including my roomate.

reply to post by asen_y2k

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But that doesn't mean its an unknown growing virus. All it could be is swine flu spreading. Which is what is to be expected.

I have a link for you. Seems the bug is similiar to viral pneumonia. Unfortunately, the blogger mentions 6 deaths from "severe hemorrhagic pneumonia" and my search on "severe hemorrhagic pneumonia" turned up some highly disturbing results.

I won't say more about it for now. I'll let you look at this first.

crofsblogs.typepad.com...

For now, they are treating it the same as they would treat viral pneumonia until the final test results get back in two weeks.

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by asen_y2k

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But that doesn't mean its an unknown growing virus. All it could be is swine flu spreading. Which is what is to be expected.

Deaths are being tested for swine flu, till now only 2 have confirmed swine flu, rest are unknown, so all deaths are not due to swine flu. God knows what this 'unknown virus' is! But one thing is for sure, its kills faster than swine flu and mortality rate is bad. This info is from the hospital!

reply to post by Hellmutt

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Viruses adapt much quicker and are much more lethal in colder climates. Makes sense.

reply to post by Zosynspiracy

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Yes, but southern Norway has been hit the hardest. Southern Norway is not the coldest part of Norway, and it's cold in Sweden too...

More for the OP here ... the CDC (US Centers for Disease Control) in September 2009 (a month ago) put out a pdf (portable document which can be viewed with Adobe reader) asking doctors to report

www.ncmedsoc.org...

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Physicians Asked to be on the Lookout for Possible “Hemorrhagic Pneumonia Cases”
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There's an email address at the bottom. Perhaps your doctors could email and get more attention faster than England's 2 week turn-around on the test.

Sounds like CDC 'knew something was coming'. Just my opinion.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by Trexter Ziam]

Originally posted by Hellmutt
reply to post by Zosynspiracy

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Yes, but southern Norway has been hit the hardest. Southern Norway is not the coldest part of Norway, and it's cold in Sweden too...

The situation in Ukraine got really worse after first snowfall sometime before last week, since then the temperature a little over zero and raining. Puddles and muck everywhere. Since then I am hearing about everyone getting sick with sudden fever. We had a party last week. Left at 5 in the morning. The next day called my friends with whom i was drinking and 2 of them had sudden high fever and bad body ache. They said they could not get out of bed. Whats amazing is how suddenly it hits. Two of them are from Poland and have returned to their homes there(pathways of spreading the virus).

For thousands of years food has been our medicine. If you want to fight infection, look towards certain foods. Carrot juice has been shown to be great for your lungs. Raw garlic also, as well as for blood flow and cleaning your system. Another thing is raw honey, especially in green tea. Did you know that the shelf life for honey is so long because bacteria will not grow in it. Drink some honey tea and you are helping to destroy bacteria. Drink some raw apple cidar vinegar, did you know it will kill almost every form of bacteria and fungus as well. It has been used throughout history as a cleaning product and it's natural! You can dilute a little with some water and drink it.

That would be a start if you did the above and encouraged others to do the same. Eat raw garlic cloves every day as well to fight off an infection.


You can read my thread if you'd like to hear more...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I've been reading some more about the Norwegian flu. Seems like those who are sick are not tested properly. Maybe this aggressive virus could be the same "unknown" virus that has hit Ukraine?


Google translated: Swine Flu: Why so many die in Norway?

Doctors and nurses are afraid of being infected. They prefer to consult by phone, so they release the infection risk. It has already been proven more wrong diagnoses for this reason. When a family recently got a high fever and other symptoms, of course, we went to the doctor. They were shocked to receive a living patient into the office. Terrified of infection. We had to almost force us to an investigation. No drugs. A blood test for the lungs, but no samples of influenza viruses.

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No surprise that health authorities are in disarray.

Physicians Asked to be on the Lookout for Possible “Hemorrhagic Pneumonia Cases”
Among Influenza Patients
The CDC says that there have been some anecdotal reports of possible "hemorrhagic pneumonia" cases among influenza patients who have died or been hospitalized for severe illness. The phrase "hemorrhagic pneumonia" is somewhat outdated, and most clinicians will not use the term to describe this condition, which can be a very rare complication of viral respiratory infection. Some other terms that can be used to
describe this include diffuse alveolar hemorrhage (DAH), which can be caused by infections but doesn't have to be, and hemorrhagic pneumonitis. In any event, it's a serious complication that will sometimes lead to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). It occurs very rarely as a complication of seasonal influenza, and there is some
concern that it might be more common in H1N1 infections.
The CDC is asking state health officials to look out for possible cases that may involve clusters of patients who might have these symptoms, or a large proportion of cases with these symptoms (e.g., 4 of 5 deaths). They will invariably be among the most severely ill
influenza patients (i.e., deaths, ICU patients).


www.ncmedsoc.org...

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