reply to post by Angiras
good post. Thanks.
Just like to comment that PM Tymoshenko is using stats for the first three quarters of 2007, which if put alongside the current figures for the latest
outbreak make things look none to bad. However, this latest outbreak really took off only a couple of weeks ago and has infected around 1 million
people in that time. It's still way too early for comparisons like this to be used to argue the position she is taking. In my humble opinion. And in
any case, total figures don't always tell the whole story. Infection rates and virulence are also important factors.
In other words, if it's really just a pretty regular outbreak as she appears to claim it beats me why things happened so darned fast. But that's
just my take on it which could well be off-track.
But because we should at least have that data that she refers to, I did a dig through the Ukraine Ministry of Health's previous years to check what
they actually said back in 2007. I found some stuff that is interesting and members who want to check it out might find
a good starting point. Just a note for members: when reading it through please
don't confuse "morbidity" (infection rate) with "mortality" or you'll scare yourself sh... errrmm... a lot.
One thing that I found significant is that the flu vaccination rate for Ukraine in that year was about 1% (ONE percent)!
Also take care not to confuse figures for all illnesses with those for flu/ARI, otherwise... well, like I said above...
I found it in their press releases (which is where the latest data charts are as well), on
. You can find it by its release
date of Oct 8. (The order's date is Oct 5.)
A search in the later (by date) pages will likely yield a full report for 2007 so if someone can find it and post the link for it, that would be
But yes, 2007 was a bad year, health-wise. 2006 was their lowest infection rate year since 1970. For flu/ARI, anyway.
Like to say more now but have to go into work for a while.
Oh btw you can use the google add-on (or plug-in or whatever it is) in Mozilla to translate the page for you. It's not too awful, says my wife. Gives
you the gist at least. (She can read Russian and understands Ukrainian quite well.) If you don't have Mozilla and use windoze IE then I have no idea
what you do as I never use IE.
Quick reminder. I have the interview with "Doctor S" scheduled for tomorrow. Please send me a U2U
if you have any questions for him. If you
post them in the thread I might miss them and it also makes it harder for me to collate the list of questions.
His area of expertise is epidemiology and virology so questions relating to that would be most welcome. Others I can try, time permitting.
The key things I hope to ask him about are the Baxter "tainted vaccine" scandal and what he knows and can opine about the current situation in
Ukraine -- and of course his take on what may happen next.
If you don't know what the "Doctor S" thing is all about just ask and one of our members can fill you in.
I must fly. Catch you later.