reply to post by Bcs8484
What's sad about all this is that here, we are getting one story, while the main western media (ie MSM for our purposes here and now) are telling it
quite differently. So, either one of them is out-and-out lying, or they are both only telling part of the truth. The degree of obfuscation in the MSM
these days would lead me to suspect the former rather than the latter.
My reasoning is that people in this part of the world -- especially in central and Eastern Europe -- had so many years of being told lies every day
that since the fall of the old Communist regime, there have been quite earnest efforts to tell as much of the truth as they are able. I'm not saying
they always get it right, but I believe that they try
. Also, so many people here are able to understand some regional languages that they can
dig on sites for other countries and at least get a good gist of what's going on. So, when their own media mis-report, they know about it and are not
backward in coming forward and calling them out on it.
But don't get me wrong: I'm sure they misreport and cover-up. It just doesn;t seem to be as rampant as I've noted for western media. (I use ATS to
dig for info quite often so I could be biased, though.)
In the west, however, many* people have perhaps come to believe the marketing by the MSM, namely they they always tell the real story. This makes it
much easier to spin webs of lies that are believed.
*Forgive me if my use of "many" is taking things too far. I'm ready to stand corrected.
Even in this thread we have had a few members, who relying solely on English-language media sites, tell us that we have our facts wrong because they
have a better translation.
If that is so, then I'd ask that they please provide the original
report from the Ukraine or a nearby country, and place that in a post with
the English translation of that specific report, that is said to be better than ours.
I have no qualms about linking to local media sites here which got their news straight from the Ukraine; I also don't mind providing my own
translation of excerpts I post that anyone with the knowledge can check as they wish -- or simply read the original I provide for reference. I find it
somewhat galling that by implication, the reports that the OP provided, or mine for that matter, are so woefully inaccurate that they are completely
at odds with these English-language-only sites' reports and hence must be wrong.
The OP is there
. He has spoken to treating doctors, some of whom are his own teachers and therefore by implication ought to really know their
stuff. They say the infective pathogen has yet to be identified and they're worried about it. I say that his
words, and those reports from
people in my own country who have Ukrainian contacts, carry far more weight than third-hand reports from elsewhere.
On a totally different note but still relevant: if any of you should develop such symptoms, then I'd suggest that you don't use aspirin (by any of
its trade names or derivatives) as an analgesic or antipyretic. Aspirin has an antiplatelet effect, which is commonly referred to as "thinning the
blood". It also consequentially has an effect on the digestive tract as it can cause bleeding in the bowels, among other things, and as symptoms of
hemorrhage have been reported, you don;t want anything that might increase such complications. Paracetamol would be a viable substitute.
However I'm not an MD. If in doubt, check with your medical care person.