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Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?

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posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:19 PM
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seems there was a great deal that was at stake and interesting to follow if possible




posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:27 PM
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Here is where he is at,

They seem to have a weird alert to even visit the Hospital. Not common for this establishment

www.dmh.ca.gov...



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:37 PM
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reply to post by MajorDisaster
 


I guess they released him into the custody of a mental hospital until his next court date in January. Im sure hes on his meds now.


Case No.: SA07201901

Court Name: LAX SUPERIOR DEPT D
Court Address: 11701 S. LA CIENEGA BLVD. Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT

Bail Amount: 0 Fine Amount: .00

Court Date: 10/26/2009 Sentence Date: 10/26/2009 Number of days Sentenced: 0

Disposition Code: PAT Disposition Description: PATTON STATE HOSPITAL



Case No.: 9WA0026501

Court Name: LAX LA MUNI COURT DIV 141
Court Address: 11701 S. LA CIENEGA BLVD. Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT

Bail Amount: 0 Fine Amount: .00

Court Date: 01/25/2010 Sentence Date: 10/26/2009 Number of days Sentenced: 0

Disposition Code: OR Disposition Description: OWN RECOGNIZANCE



Case No.: 9WA0206301

Court Name: LAX LA MUNI COURT DIV 141
Court Address: 11701 S. LA CIENEGA BLVD. Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT

Bail Amount: 0 Fine Amount: .00

Court Date: 01/25/2010 Sentence Date: 10/26/2009 Number of days Sentenced: 0

Disposition Code: OR Disposition Description: OWN RECOGNIZANCE



www.lasd.org...



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by BLUESHADOW747
I was just watching a movie before with amazing similarities to this:Is there anyone out there with any strategies or plans that we can actually prepare for as I said and felt before we are in for a BIG MOTHER here


I just remembered reading this and found it again.
english.chinatibetnews.com...

I got the hint on antibiotics from this article on the governments website.
Plan to bug out for a few years if it hits as it comes in waves. Read www.eyewitnesstohistory.com...

Facts about Pneumonic Plague

Plague is an infectious disease that affects animals and humans. It is caused
by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. This bacterium is found in rodents and their
fleas and occurs in many areas of the world, including the United States.

Y. pestis is easily destroyed by sunlight and drying. Even so, when released
into air, the bacterium will survive for up to one hour, although this could
vary depending on conditions. Pneumonic plague is one of several forms of plague.

Depending on circumstances, these forms may occur separately or in combination:
Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plague
can spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take place
if someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist
attack.

Pneumonic plague is also spread by breathing in Y. pestis suspended in respiratory
droplets from a person (or animal) with pneumonic plague. Becoming infected
in this way usually requires direct and close contact with the ill person or
animal.

Pneumonic plague may also occur if a person with bubonic or septicemic plague
is untreated and the bacteria spread to the lungs. Bubonic plague is the most
common form of plague. This occurs when an infected flea bites a person or when
materials contaminated with Y. pestis enter through a break in a person’s skin.
Patients develop swollen, tender lymph glands (called buboes) and fever, headache,
chills, and weakness. Bubonic plague does not spread from person to person.

Septicemic plague occurs when plague bacteria multiply in the blood. It can
be a complication of pneumonic or bubonic plague or it can occur by itself.
When it occurs alone, it is caused in the same ways as bubonic plague; however,
buboes do not develop. Patients have fever, chills, prostration, abdominal pain,
shock, and bleeding into skin and other organs.

Septicemic plague does not spread from person to person. Symptoms and Treatment
With pneumonic plague, the first signs of illness are fever, headache, weakness,
and rapidly developing pneumonia with shortness of breath, chest pain, cough,
and sometimes bloody or watery sputum. The pneumonia progresses for 2 to 4 days
and may cause respiratory failure and shock.

Without early treatment, patients may die. Early treatment of pneumonic plague
is essential. To reduce the chance of death, antibiotics must be given within
24 hours of first symptoms. Streptomycin, gentamicin, the tetracyclines, and
chloramphenicol are all effective against pneumonic plague. Antibiotic treatment
for 7 days will protect people who have had direct, close contact with infected
patients.

Wearing a close-fitting surgical mask also protects against infection.Plague
is an infectious disease that affects animals and humans. It is caused by the
bacterium Yersinia pestis. This bacterium is found in rodents and their fleas
and occurs in many areas of the world, including the United States. Y. pestis
is easily destroyed by sunlight and drying.

Even so, when released into air, the bacterium will survive for up to one hour,
although this could vary depending on conditions. Pneumonic plague is one of
several forms of plague. Depending on circumstances, these forms may occur separately
or in combination:

Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plague
can spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take place
if someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist
attack.

Pneumonic plague is also spread by breathing in Y. pestis suspended in respiratory
droplets from a person (or animal) with pneumonic plague. Becoming infected
in this way usually requires direct and close contact with the ill person or
animal. Pneumonic plague may also occur if a person with bubonic or septicemic
plague is untreated and the bacteria spread to the lungs.

Bubonic plague is the most common form of plague. This occurs when an infected
flea bites a person or when materials contaminated with Y. pestis enter through
a break in a person’s skin. Patients develop swollen, tender lymph glands (called
buboes) and fever, headache, chills, and weakness. Bubonic plague does not spread
from person to person. Septicemic plague occurs when plague bacteria multiply
in the blood. It can be a complication of pneumonic or bubonic plague or it
can occur by itself. When it occurs alone, it is caused in the same ways as
bubonic plague; however, buboes do not develop. Patients have fever, chills,
prostration, abdominal pain, shock, and bleeding into skin and other organs.

Septicemic plague does not spread from person to person. Symptoms and Treatment
With pneumonic plague, the first signs of illness are fever, headache, weakness,
and rapidly developing pneumonia with shortness of breath, chest pain, cough,
and sometimes bloody or watery sputum. The pneumonia progresses for 2 to 4 days
and may cause respiratory failure and shock. Without early treatment, patients
may die.

Early treatment of pneumonic plague is essential. To reduce the chance of death,
antibiotics must be given within 24 hours of first symptoms. Streptomycin, gentamicin,
the tetracyclines, and chloramphenicol are all effective against pneumonic plague.
Antibiotic treatment for 7 days will protect people who have had direct, close
contact with infected patients. Wearing a close-fitting surgical mask also protects
against infection.

A plague vaccine is not currently available for use in the United States.



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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latest from India:

www.newsonair.com...


100th swine flu victim dies in Pune Nov 6 In Pune, the death toll due to swine flu has risen to 100 following death of a 28 year old woman on Thursday. Ten more patients have tested positive and five are in critical condition in various hospitals in Pune. The district administration and health department has prepared an action plan for a second possible wave of swine flu. It has planed more intensive care units, isolation wards and medical as well as paramedical workers. According to Collector of Pune, this plan would be submitted to the state government soon for final approval.


I wish we knew what was what...is it H1N1 or not? Other reports state categorically that 30 samples from these deaths were positively determined NOT to be. I suppose it could be a swine flu, as opposed to the swine flu. Damn, this is hard work.

Is it my imagination or does it seem like the death rate is accelerating globally?



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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double post

[edit on 5-11-2009 by apacheman]



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:11 AM
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Ukraine doctors

Found this article.

kavkazcenter.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by nikiano

Live viruses can shed. Seriously... we learned the first year in pharmacy school that if you take a live vaccine, you can transmit that virus to other people after getting the vaccine yourself. First year pharmacy school material. Knowing that, why in God's name would they deliberately expose CHILDREN and PREGNANT women to a live vaccine of a highly infectious, potentially deadly virus?


Well Nikiano,
I think your question is the answer many people who believe this to be a man-made virus designed to severely thin the population has been looking for. If you believe this is all man-made and are one of the people who believe that the vaccine and not the virus is what we should be fearful of, then here's the scenario:
1. TPTB creating a flu that isn't very powerful but spreads fairly quickly;
2. the WHO changing the definition of pandemic so that it doesn't have to have a high mortality rate;
3. People now crapping themselves thinking they are going to die from a mild flu;
4. these people take a LIVE vaccine;
5. the vaccine is more lethal;
6. the vaccine "sheds";
7. nutters like you and me won't take the vaccine;
8. we get the flu from the people shedding the vaccine;
9. the vaccine carries different forms of flu;
10. we die.

Maybe, that's all there is to this.

An alternate scenario may be that the flu is meant to weaken our immune systems so that some other unknown virus kills us more easily.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by really]



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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Anyone know of a number graph that is keeping track of the amount of deaths daily due to flu or whatever?

I tried going to flu tracker, but all those stupid circles makes it hard to read. I'm looking for a bar graph, that I can compare daily. I want to find out if the number of deaths are rising logrhythmically....how fast the deaths are rising.

I'm not trying to be morbid, I just want to be able to track it worldwide.



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by apacheman
latest from India:

www.newsonair.com...


100th swine flu victim dies in Pune Nov 6 In Pune, the death toll due to swine flu has risen to 100 following death of a 28 year old woman on Thursday. Ten more patients have tested positive and five are in critical condition in various hospitals in Pune. The district administration and health department has prepared an action plan for a second possible wave of swine flu. It has planed more intensive care units, isolation wards and medical as well as paramedical workers. According to Collector of Pune, this plan would be submitted to the state government soon for final approval.


I wish we knew what was what...is it H1N1 or not? Other reports state categorically that 30 samples from these deaths were positively determined NOT to be. I suppose it could be a swine flu, as opposed to the swine flu. Damn, this is hard work.

Is it my imagination or does it seem like the death rate is accelerating globally?


That report says swine flu. I thought someone posted that the "unknown virus that didn't test as H1N1" thing was from last year?

There are other diseases that occur in these places, India has all kinds of bugs going around at one time or another.

It does have people wondering if there actually has been a mutation to the point where the tests don't even detect it now. That would be very, very bad news if true.



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by seattletruth
reply to post by nikiano
 


Not sure how you missed it.... I know I didn't. Not only did they distribute it to 18 countries, but the Slovaks say that it could NOT have been an accident, Baxter have WAYY too many safe-guards implemented for the contamination to have been released as a final product without knowledge.


I'm certainly not an anti conspiracy type of person but when all that news about the Baxter thing came out I went looking for original sources and there really wasn't much out there.

I'm told that it wasn't a vaccine involved in that incident, that it was a vector - a viral seed used for research and for creating vaccines. It's supposed to be live apparently and though it killed ferrets it wasn't a type able to infect humans.

There are a lot of very strict controls around the handling and transportation of vaccines which was part of why the accusation of a contamination of that type was said to be no accident. The flip side to that is that it would be almost impossible to pull something like that off without
being caught.

I'm still looking into the whole thing and trying to gather those real sources of documentation but the more I look into the swine flu conspiracy the more mistakes and bad assumptions I'm finding. I fell for a lot of it myself, the squalene thing, for example. Thought they did change the rules so the vaccine makers can use it none of the current vaccines have it yet. I was very surprised to find that out - I looked at the product inserts for myself to verify it.

When I think about the big picture it would take one huge conspiracy to pull off what people are alleging. We're talking tens of thousands of people having to keep silent. There is a conspiracy here, I'm just no longer sure it is what it looks like and what the majority of the CT community thinks it is.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by ecoparity]



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:39 AM
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[edit on 6-11-2009 by nikiano]



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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Baxter also had a box load of samples "explode" on a train in Switzerland this past April. There's a link to a German story, but the blog has english.

birdflu666.wordpress.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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I know, I'm fully aware of all the elements of the conspiracy. I believed in quite a bit of it myself but lately I started digging a little deeper and things aren't all matching up. The WHO / CDC and parts of the news media seemed to help people reach those conclusions which has me looking at this thing from an entirely different angle now.

Like I said, I think there is a conspiracy but I think its a lot more complex and "sneaky" than the obvious one.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by ecoparity]



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by nikiano

I still think giving H1N! as a LIVE vaccine was an insane idea.

Live viruses can shed. Seriously... we learned the first year in pharmacy school that if you take a live vaccine, you can transmit that virus to other people after getting the vaccine yourself.

First year pharmacy school material. Knowing that, why in God's name would they deliberately expose CHILDREN and PREGNANT women to a live vaccine of a highly infectious, potentially deadly virus?


Surely you have answered your own question? The answer is simple - to try and infect as many as possible, increasing the chance of a deadly mutation.

Or more simply - to kill people.

Are you still trying to deny the overwhelming evidence in front of you? You know it is right, you can't deny it - but you cannot bring yourself to believe it.

Believe it. The western world is shortly facing a catastrophe of its own making in terms of destruction of the environment, and excess use of resources.

This is the answer from the globalists. Kill everyone. Stop denying what in your heart you already know to be true.



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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Not that viruses exist but what ever the illness is, someone should tell the people about MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement). MMS cured a dieing infant of malaria in less than 24 hours. It will stop pretty much an aerobic microbe.



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 01:24 AM
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You seem to have a good insight into a lot of this, and I have read enough posts from you and several other ATS'rs to make me think, and ask questions and not just be led. (which is why I browse this website)

I also think that too many things don't add up for it to all be just what is presented. I'm not sure what I think is going on...I don't have the time or the will at this point to devote to it. I know enough though to be skeptical, and to not buy into the fear propaganda and to certainly not take a vaccine that not only do I not trust it's worthiness but have come to fear.

I don't think it's about killing us off. All I am sure about is the money, because power IS money and I feel certain that both of these are at work here. How much deeper and sinister this could be, I just don't have a clue. It is a HUGE puzzle that we just don't have enough pieces to in order to see the picture. More of those pieces are being revealed as things pan out around the world, for this is not just about the good old USA. It is a global puzzle which makes it that much more confusing. I think I have the frame completed and some of the more obvious structures but the image istelf is still just not coming into focus for me.

Here on ATS, more of the pieces are being supplied but half or more of them belong on another table se we have to sort through that too. I love puzzles and riddles, but this one just isn't any fun.



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 01:29 AM
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So Asen is going home to India! Poor fella is leaving one place to escape the flu just to arrive someplace else that looks to be having similar problems!

Stay safe friend!



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 01:30 AM
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I totally agree with your thread I do not understand why in the "in your face" type of evidence happening it is so hard for some people to get it the govt. and nwo is definately trying to kill us I ask again has anyone or do you know anymore from other spots in the world or california what is going on?



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