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According to this, vaccine opponents in Ukraine are to be arrested.


VACCINE OPPONENTS IN THE UKRAINE TO BE ARRESTED

05 November 2009


Critics in the Ukraine of vaccines are to be prosecuted by the government under criminal laws, according to a report from Interfax Ukrainia Agency.

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It has been reported that a key Ukrainian civilian public health body has been dissolved and integrated into the army, raising fears of forced mass vaccinations by the military.

Key functions in the Ukrainian government appear to have been taken over by officials from WHO and the UN under the pretext of fighting a pandemic emergency.

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The Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine's parliament, has adopted a resolution on the situation linked to the epidemic of seasonal flu and pandemic A/H1N1 influenza, as well as urgent measures to fight the spread of flu.

A total of 424 MPs out of the 444 registered in the parliament's session hall on Thursday voted for the resolution.

The parliament proposed that the government immediately implement a presidential decree and government decisions aimed at preventing the spread of pandemic flu.

The Cabinet of Ministers was also proposed to introduce tight controls over the proper use of funds.

The government was also proposed to send at least UAH 500 million to the regions in 2009, while distributing additional funds allocated to the Health Ministry to take measures to prevent the spread of pandemic flu, as well as the epidemic of seasonal flu and acute respiratory infections.

The parliament also proposed that the government cancel a ban on holding mass events in regions in which quarantines were not imposed due to the flu epidemic.

The doctor of one of the Lviv hospital that agreed to talk with us on the current epidemic is asked to call either her name or position, or even hospitals, which works. Given the fact that she mentioned, I think that readers understand a treat to her desire. We guarantee that this is a real interview with real real Lviv hospital doctor who works directly with patients in acute.

We want to assure you that the purpose of this material are not escalate the already tense atmosphere. We just believe that readers should know how to actually pass the epidemic.

As now the situation of the epidemic in your hospital?

We really have now is a lot of requests from acute respiratory diseases. Most of them - Panic. Now we actually closed ua - the overwhelming majority of seats given to it under the arrivals of patients with influenza. Such have very many.

Thus official data as to the epidemic which is the variety of disease states, we do not have.

We do not have appropriate laboratories to conduct tests. So if it comes to "pork", "calf" or even knows, that influenza - we really still do not know.

Can be baseless rumors that really is not about "swine" influenza, pneumonic plague and about (as recently voiced gallery contains)?

Absolutely no grounds for such rumors do not. Pneumonic plague - this is just one manifestation of the plague. She has only one agent - pestilential stick, Yersinia pestis.

If the matter is really about pneumonic plague, we would have and its other manifestations - such as bubonic plague. Not to mention the fact that mortality in this case would be really great.

What is really not possible, it is that it is imposing a few viruses. That is what causes acute multiple pathogens.

There is a common place that it is all the same about "swine" influenza. It is a real high percentage of patients infected with this strain of virus is?

This we know - and hardly ever know. Firstly, as I said, we are not able to conduct appropriate tests. Second, those tests that all the same will be held to be selective.

Nobody now can not take samples of the virus in each patient. So real, representative statistics simply can not be set.

When you think of the idea that nothing really terrible happens, just the media inflates "interesting topic"?

Nothing is not "interesting topic". Yes, every year we have a large number of patients with flu complications - the same pneumonia, meningitis and so on. But

outbreaks of diseases such as now, do not remember even those doctors who are already very long.

Another matter that was not possible immediately to navigate what is happening. Many patients began to come to us even from the beginning of last week, when there was absolutely no information about the new virus. They come as patients on regular pneumonia. Only after they were treated as usual methods for several days, but rather they failed, it became clear that this is about something else.

In addition, you can not even compare the virus with which we deal today with those that were in previous years.

Now the disease often runs really lightning, the person immediately starts strong fever, she just goes.

Maybe while you have managed to identify at least some risk of people who are particularly vulnerable to this virus?

Difficult to say. We have the bulk of patients - is still young and children. Very few are those over 40. Vulnerable to the disease and pregnant women - today we have four pregnant women in very serious condition.

You said that doctors were not able to immediately sort out that question about the new virus epidemic. So they could not take appropriate security measures?

And now we take them almost can not. For example, masks in sufficient quantity we simply do not deliver. The doctor has 12 hours to change a minimum of 6 Masks. So, they need simply uncountable number! And we have no where to take them.

Now, the glorious "Tamiflu". To us this drug acted only on Friday evening. In order to take preventive one capsule a day, no more than 2 days after contact with patients. The patient, incidentally, must begin to treat him no later than 42 hours after onset of symptoms.

Well, that "Tamiflu", which came to us, is for patients. For doctors there is nothing. Only after the two of us sick of doctors, he managed a huge scandal "beat out" a few pills and staff.

What you can say about this product?

I can say that those doctors, about which I told him started terrible side effects - severe intoxication, nausea. So I personally take preventive purpose "Tamiflu" will not - better already provided "folk" methods. It is also the case that the drug is currently poorly studied, and may be much more harmful effects.

But let's specify - here I mean only those drugs that are produced by Hoffman La Roche. On the one produced by another manufacturer, I can not say anything, because with him not encountered.

As a whole the situation in Ukraine looks to hospitals providing the necessary tools to fight this virus?

Difficult. Some medicines patients are still forced to buy their own. As for the staff, then do it no one cares. And that - despite the fact that, according to rumor, every fourth doctor, who is suffering from acute, infected. In our hospital with pneumonia now is five doctors.

In fact, we were thrown as cannon fodder to the front, without any weapons.

How, then, be to the fact that Yulia Tymoshenko said: preparing for a flu epidemic has a very long time and came to her fully armed?

I am very happy with the government, they came to the epidemic in armed. About us say this is not possible.

If the hospital were really ready for something similar, then this is now happening in western Ukraine, just would not.

So far, we generally have only the information that comes on TV. So far we have not received any special regulations in connection with the epidemic. Decks we started only after the thunder has struck - in fact, alone.

Maybe you can even predict how long will this epidemic?

It's really impossible to predict. The only thing I can say - is that on Sunday and Monday at our hospital has received far fewer patients.

In critical condition at this time nobody fell.

And then - we'll see. What we can guarantee - it is just that today we are ready to bed in case you need to take new patients.

Information on the pneumonic plague in the capital is not the case

Unidentified persons on fake letterheads of the Department of Health and Medical KGGA spreading false information in the detection of cases of pneumonic plague. It said the first deputy mayor Irena Kilchitskaya. Distribution of provocative information using false documents under the threat of epidemic is reprehensible and can lead to panic among the population that is intolerable - she said. - I stress that any information on the detection of pulmonary plague or any other rare infection is not the case.
Irena Kilchitskaya called all the media to refrain from proliferation of unverified and false information, and Kiev and visitors not to panic.