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Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:33 PM
I don't no about you guys but from all the links I'm hearing alot of different things about what this may be. From a mutated H1N1 virus, a form of a mixed bird flu pig flu, to a type of TB(Red Death). So thiers no really telling what this can be . The things we do no is that it has a faster onset to death then does swine flu, also an Autopsy that was done on someone who died showed alot of phelm and clotted blood in the lungs? So I don't no what this can be yet, scientist are confused as well.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:36 PM
Sorry if I missed this already. Good work so far, everyone

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko ordered the Defense Ministry to prepare a mobile military hospitals.

According to an UNIAN correspondent, he told reporters.

V. Yushchenko said that today should provide the necessary number of places for patients.

The president said the Defense Ministry order for the deployment of mobile mobile hospitals, which will be raised if necessary.

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko has said that drugs to combat pandemic influenza A/H1N1 long enough, but he would ask the world community, if the need arises for additional resources.

[edit on 30/10/2009 by Muppetus Galacticus]

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:37 PM
Someone asked why in the Ukraine it might be being refered to as the california flu.

I would suggest that the reason is that the variation of H1N1 they are seeing is the variation that first was found in California. Which if you recall, killed several people in the spring when this first hit the news.

It a "california variation."

Publicly Available List of Known H1N1 variations

One thing to notice about this list of virus mutations which have been submitted to the genebanks - Almost no contribution from the second world. Almost no contribution from South America, or Asia or Island populaces. And no updates since September.

Changes to this virus over the southern hemisphere's winter have been virtually untracked.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:38 PM

The diphtheria vaccine caused lung congestion, chills and fever, swollen, sore throat clogged with the false membrane, and the choking suffocation because of difficulty in breathing followed by gasping and death, after which the body turned black from stagnant blood that had been deprived of oxygen in the suffocation stages. In early days they called it Black Death. The other vaccines cause their own reactions — paralysis, brain damage, lockjaw, etc.

So what do you make of this, sound familiar?

Full article here;

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:42 PM

Originally posted by daddio
reply to post by asen_y2k

Get yourself some Colloidal Silver, it will protect you from anything. It can be injected straight into the bloodstream for maximum effectiveness. Johns Hopkins University, here in the States, has used it to kill cancerous tumors by injection. The results/posts were deleted the next day though so the information is unavailable. Maybe it can be had from the medical registry?

Sad to here the Illuminati/Freemasonic organizations are hard at work murdering people again for the scare factor.

I just went out to the apteka(med store). They have nothing, no masks, no antibiotics/antiviral(amizon), few have vitamin C. People at hospitals are not very co-operative. Its very difficult to get things done. So if we get sick, well we have to help ourselves.

And at the street level, there are very few people on the streets, people at stores and police etc are all wearing masks.

And for now, just got some cognac and roasted chicken. Gonna do some panic drinking with friends

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:46 PM
reply to post by asen_y2k

best wishes to you and your friends in the ukraine bud. thanks for keeping us informed of whats goin on on the ground, good to have a voice who is just a person like the rest of us reporting whats happening. i know i apreciate it.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:50 PM
reply to post by asen_y2k

I'll pop a beer open and have a distant drink with you.

Sounds like about the best plan , kick back, and be with friends/family and wait for information.

Glad we have the net, we can get ground zero reports, and keep up on into, back in the other outbrakes, by the time we knew much about it, it would be to late.

Thanks to all for the first hand reports.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:54 PM
reply to post by daddio

There were no flu vaccines in 1918. The first flu vaccine wasn't developed until around two decades later:

In 1931, viral growth in embryonated hens' eggs was discovered, and in the 1940s, the US military developed the first approved inactivated vaccines for influenza, which were used in the Second World War (Baker 2002, Hilleman 2000).

The source for the above statement may be found here.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 02:55 PM
Here is what the Netherlands are reporting:

Radio Metherlands Worldwide

I wonder where they got their news?

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:00 PM
reply to post by Parallex
You did your homework and put it in a concise package, nice work. There is definitely something to this, we will just have to wait for the final outcome.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:02 PM
reply to post by JustMike

Actually as I was reading on the 1918 pandemic many experts are coming forward to say that many of the death were due to side effects of over medications to treat the symptoms as people in that time were given aspirin and aspirin was widely used and misused before it was discovered that could be toxic in high quantities.

I think that was very interesting, I wonder what other medication of the time were also easily available OTC.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:03 PM
This is doomgasmic!

We're already dead.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:05 PM
Now I'm not saying this to be true, but I'm just saying strange location...

Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. A. True Ott, broadcast on Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who wanted to supply evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death. e-flu-vaccine-westwood

[edit on 30-10-2009 by Bcs8484]

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:12 PM
Gone but not forgotten:

Given the potential magnitude of this and other similar problems it would seem that Microbiologists, Immunologists, Epidemiologists and other related specialties are our most valuable assets. Unfortunately, in the last 10 years those specialties have suffered significant unexpected and unexplained losses as reported here on ATS.

Jim Marrs: Microbiologists: Murder, Suicide, Accident, All three or other?


40 Microbiologists Killed: Something Fishy Going On?

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:13 PM
When this story broke I got that know the feeling of impending doom. I am not saying I am psychic because I am not, but again this one gave me the creeps more than many other news recently.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:18 PM

As the world enters the H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic season, another possible virus emerges as 30 people in the Eastern European country of Ukraine have died from this latest flu.

Radio Netherlands Worldwide reports 40,000 Ukrainians have contracted the disease and at least 100 are in the hospital. Tests are currently being conducted and all is known is that it is not the H1N1 Swine Flu.

"From today, all the school establishments in Ukraine -- be they private or public -- will be put on three weeks of holiday," she told her cabinet in comments carried on Ukrainian television.

Tymoshenko said the government would also be banning "all public gatherings, every concert and every cinema showing for three weeks."

The government will also introduce "special regimes" to limit the movement of Ukraine's citizens from one region to another for non-urgent purposes, she said. Ukraine has borders with four EU countries.

The prime minister's tough actions came as Ukraine confirmed its first deaths from the A(H1N1) virus, amid a growing panic over several dozen unexplained deaths in the west of the country

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:24 PM
reply to post by pwrthtbe

Interesting to have a little extra detail on the disease's course -- even if we don't know yet how accurate the details are.

I guess they get their info in much the same way some of our news organizations in my country do, namely they employ "stringers": journalists based in regions and who are often freelance and who have contracts with various news networks. They report on a range of newsy items and when something bigger breaks they focus on it.

We have a few Czech journalists who live in Ukraine and file reports from there, and those reports seem pretty consistent on the "mystery infection" theme. Some other reports in English that have been linked to in this thread have either got their translations wrong or are altering the story to suit an English-speaking audience.

Just to confirm something... Checking my local online news outlets here in Prague, they are reporting along the same lines that the actual pathogen in the Ukraine infections is still unknown and that tests are being done in London to give the answer.

Here's a sample from a different source to the one I quoted some pages back. It's from a site called "aktualne cz". "Aktualne" is something like "happening now". Again, I'll quote these short excerpts without accents, so that they will show as normal letters. Doubtless some of our members can understand it:

Ukrajince kosi zahadny virus. Zabil 37 lidi a radi dal.

Kyjev - Na Ukrajine zabiji neidentifikovany virus, s nimz se lekari pry dosud nesetkali...

..."Nikdo nevi, co poradne delat. Vypade to na nejaky novy, neznamy virus," rekla jedna z pracovnic nemocnice v Drahobyci.



Ukrainians scythed down by mystery virus. It has killed 37 people and goes on.

Kiev -- An unidentified virus is killing in Ukraine, one that doctors are said to have not met with before...

"Nobody knows what to do about it. It looks like some new, unknown virus," said a staff member at a hospital in Drahobyc.

[end translation]

I prefer to follow the local sources in cases like this because there is less chance of mis-translations or simply "obscured" reporting. There are enough Czech journalists who understand Ukrainian (or who are based there, as I said), that we tend to get the details fairly accurately -- within the limits of what TPTB will allow to become known of course (as is the case everywhere, all the time).


[edit on 30/10/09 by JustMike]

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:27 PM
reply to post by JustMike

"Ukrainians scythed down by mystery virus. It has killed 37 people and goes on"

great headline...

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:27 PM
It is no surprise that the media is not reporting on this story. It seems the media only reports on what it is told to report and to report on such a story would lend credibility to those that have stated that this whole vaccine issue is nothing but a corporate action to generate revenue at the expense of the public and a hidden agenda to depopulate the planet of as many humans as possible.

They the big pharmas develop the vaccine, patent it and produce tons of vaccine for sale long before we have any flu related issues and some ask how could they have been ready if they didnt know in advance and are in fact following a sales plan.

While many believe that the big pharmas are doing exactly what they planned in order to generate billions in profits, it is also clear that they could not have achieved such business success without the cooperation of high officials in government.

It is this relationship of bribes, greed and murder for the sake of the planet that needs to be addressed and stories like this one out of the Ukraine are exactly what Obama and his supporters do not want aired.

As such, our own media is clearly doing the bidding of their masters by not airing this news.

This article leaves me questioning, who watches out for the publics safety and when do they act to protect the interests of Americans? I dont know the aswer, but our elected officials have failed us plain and simple.

If we are nothing but a source of revenue to the big corporations and our elected officials then we are indeed in big trouble for it will only be a matter of time before the government decides who lives and who needs to die for the sake of the planet.

Only afterwards will the FEMA trains, FEMA camps and FEMA gulliotines and cremation ovens make sense, but not until you realize that this whole flu pandemic is nothing but a corporate generated act of criminality generated only for the simple motive of billions in profits at the expense of the lives of unsuspecting citiizens.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 03:27 PM
reply to post by Bcs8484

I remember this. I had forgotten all about it. It was a really weird scene. They pepper sprayed the guy and gassed him. They used a military type operation to take him down. They also had some radio jamming device to prevent him from making calls from his car that was surrounded. The reports out of MSM called him a possible terrorist who had threatened the president. This never set well with me. They said the guy was crazy and then it fell from the news. Hmmmm? Might be more to this!

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