Former Smashing Pumpkins Frontman: Flu Pandemic is Propaganda

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Well done for him to speak his mind. Regardless of their position people need to reason this out and speak what they find. I'm not qualified to say is the virus was natural or not. I don't feel it was, but this is just my feeling.

The virus as he states is real, but the propaganda declaring the pandemic is just that. By this standard every year is a pandemic.

He might be viewed as an alternative though.

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Yeah for him! S & F! I have always felt that this was done by evil people.

Or else that it escaped from a lab somewhere.

I, too, know a lot of people who had H1N1, but they all recovered, and I am sorry for those who did not recover, and for their families.

Dang, he was a great musician and will be missed.

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I knew there was a reason I loved his music so much. Good guy.

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Will be missed?

Do you know something we don't

He is still alive.

Speaking of which, Billy is still the frontman of SP! They released a new album a couple years ago.

Obama declared a national emergency because he knows something we don't. They know how bad H1N1 'will' get. Many folks like Corgan and 1,000's of ATS members will perish.

I don't get this. Why the *hell* would I care what some musician thinks about a vaccine? What does that singer know, that I don't? Not a thing. Not about medicine, anyway (he probably knows way more about music, of course).

If I've got a medical question, I go to medical sources, not to a musician. If I'm looking to hire a band or a musician, I don't call my doctor. If I have appendicitis, I don't call Smashing Pumpkins.

I fully understand that many doctors are completely indoctrinated into the medical "religion" or orthodoxy. Medicine is the only way to stay healthy, all the medical treatments are fine, anything else is stupid, yadda-yadda-yadda. Whatever. So true, I might not get an unbiased, impartial opinion from such a doctor. But the odds of my getting an *informed* opinion are much greater than getting it from Smashing Pumpkins (hmm... it's about that time of year for the pumpkins, too). But I digress.

Medicine is a complex topic. Even experts disagree about things, including the value of vaccines. Ask ten doctors, you'll probably get ten different opinions, because it's just not a simple matter. But asking musicians is unlikely to give you an opinion any near as useful as asking a doctor or two.

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Obama declared a limited national emergency so that hospitals wouldn't be hamstrung by regulations, in the event they needed to create makeshift areas for treatment or isolation of contagious patients. So far, that's all that has happened.

So far it doesn't appear that either the vaccine, or H1N1 flu, is causing any excessive deaths. Some people who take the vaccine die. Some who get H1N1 die. So far, a higher percentage of people who got H1N1 have died, as opposed to those who took the vaccine. But in both cases, that percentage has been quite low.

Did you believe dentists who told you the mercury in "silver fillings" was safe?

Did you believe the AMA and ADA who told you that aspartame and fluoride are safe?

Did you believe doctors who prescribed Celebrex and Vioxx, which killed over 60,000 people?

Did you believe doctors who gave swine flu shots in 1976, which caused more deaths and neurological damage than the swine flu itself?

Corgan has done his research. I give him credit for that.

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like the old saying goes the claim before the storm.

Billy Corgans is a musical genius. He also is one of those geniuses who likes to remind people he is a genius, but he really did a good job of analyzing the who H1N1 situation

He initially asked the most important question

"So, why declare an emergency if there isn’t one?"

Exactly, how can you have a pre- emergency ?...It like Pre crime
which is another law Obama has endorsed

Corgan exposes what this is all about here:

"I am more focused on the vibration that has us all so fearful: both for how the fear affects our thinking, and how, in our fear, we attract the worst, and, in conjunction with that, how those fears are used by others without integrity to try to create a power against Us to promote discomfort and dis-ease."

Great job - I still have the SmashingPumpkins first EP from 1990 !

What you all have to remember is sometimes the government is thinking two steps ahead of everyone else BECAUSE they actually have more information than the people. I'm not at all claiming the government has our best interests at heart. But let's look back at history. The Spanish flu pandemic killed millions of people. The swine flu could be taking that same path. Keep in mind what's happening in Ukraine. While I don't trust the government and some of this is fear mongering.......I'm not going to turn a blind eye, ignore history, ignore virology and bury my head in the sand thinking that if this flu mutates and becomes resistant and starts killing millions of people that a little Vitamin D and wishful thinking is going to save my life. I think we need to stop picking sides, take everything with a grain of salt and just wait and see. Things are changing way too fast to say this is is all propaganda and there is nothing to be concerned about.

The Spanish Flu came about because they were vaccinating the b#ggery out of everyone.

The vaccine conspiracy theories are rare in that they actually hold water when scrutinised properly.

If you're not turning a blind eye or ignoring history, then you'll definitely want to investigate the last time a "swine flu epidemic" occurred, in 1976, when the vaccine caused more deaths and neurological damage than the swine flu itself. '60 Minutes' did an excellent story on it in 1979, which I've posted in this category.

Since the immune system is critical to fending off ALL viruses, I'll take Vitamin D over mercury, aluminum and squalene any day.

Billy Corgan is a self obsessed a hole.

Probably just saying a bunch of random things to see what sticks, that way he can feel relevant again.

Cite your sources?



It sounded rather coherent and articulate to me...but hey my brain is random to begin with!

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Great idea! Since a musician could never be a doctor either!

I understan your train of thought and great points,
however a musician may have more 'real life' experience and even a keener insight in many 'gray' areas. Indeed, bordering on ESP even?
As to the title of the post,
as long as the proper research has been done properly,
why does it matter so much who is the one doing it?

There is enough information out there for all to look at.
Enough to make one wonder anyway even being a bit skeptical.
After all, doctors have much to gain from an outbreak, true?
As much as big pharma also?

articles.mercola.com...

money.cnn.com...
Hmmmm.....nah its nothing. Really. Just good bidness. And big money!


Duh! I forgot my whole point.
It is all this,
but mostly it is a distraction to keep us from thinking about the emmense
screwing we're getting. Kinda like the very HC bill. Ironic just a bit, eh?
No big whoop. Keep moving......
S & F!



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And since it's Halloween, I think it's time to play one for Billy:

YouTube Link

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