Goup seeking Islamic state in U.S.

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I know, not all muslims are like this, I know Islam is a religion of "peace", I know all that, but the more i read about the subject the more appalled I am. For a religion of peace this seems to happen an awful lot around the world, areas where muslims move into and grow and eventually take over by any means. Look at the situation in Australia and Britain, how long before we are faced with it here in the US?

The number of Muslim extremists is growing very fast...pretty scary to think about how high the number has to get until something is done. German power in ww2 wasn't checked until they were too strong, Muslim extremists are an even bigger threat due to the fact that they are spread out all over the place and you really don't know who you are fighting. I hope it will not escalate into the situation like in Britian or France.

There are groups which want Western systems implemented on Islamic nations, you guys already did it forcefully.

It is the same, they think Islam is right, some think Communism is right, some think Democracy ... bla bla bla... waste of time discussing these issues, look at it from a universal perspective, not narrowly.

I just had a random thought, I was reading recently on Yahoo about large areas of detroit suburbs being abandoned how they had houses going unsold at auction for 500 dollars.

My thought would be that Detroit would be an ideal area for a group if they wanted to start moving cheaply and in large numbers in order to "take over" or influence a voting block of some kind. I was wondering if anyone has statistics on the Islamic population growth in detroit?

I remember reading awhile back this happening in a similar area in australia, where it got to the point that large sections of the city had been taken over, and areas where police no longer bothered to patrol because of the negativity toward them by the muslim population.

much like how the mexicans in the southwest are doing now, the muslims are doing to europe. instead of militarily invading, they do it in a subversive way until there is enough of them to make a bold move towards establishing themselves..

Really? Universally? I have no problem admitting to the faults of western government when it comes to imperialism and wars abroad, and I have no problem agreeing that crimes have been committed by the government in pursuit of unjust wars.

What I do have a problem with is a spread of any belief system that makes statements like.

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?"

Sheik Hilali made this statement in reference to the conviction of muslims in a rape case in australia.


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No such thing as an unjust war. One side or the other has it right.

And that analogy about uncovered food.

Our Western women are not to be equated with Kibbles and Bits. That covering thing is a Muslim excuse to engage in raping the **** out of unbelievers.

Muhammed was great at it.

Thus Muslim justification.

Try that crap in my town. We'll show you some good-'ol-boy justification.

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And how did you relate his opinion to Islam?

Once again read what I said:



Yes I can bring a personal opinion of a Democrat, or a Republican, or a Democracy advocate, or a Communist advocate or a Capitalist advocate, put it on the table and let you defend it.

I'm not going to defend someone's personal opinion, are you? If I bring a quote from Cheney would you defend it? Because he is an American? Or a supporter of Democracy, or a Nationalist? Or Capitalist?


Just 53% Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism

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Police: Gang rape outside school dance lasted over two hours


Go for it, show those guys your justification

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How does it relate? how is it different? he is Australia's most senior Muslim cleric thats how.

YOU and I don't have thousands of followers listening to our advice, thats the difference, this guy is a spokesperson for Islam.

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Don't go changing up on me.

I specifically was responding to the words of that turd-Sheik.

That is some twisted logic.

But then again, exactly what his twisted prophet engaged in.

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Id say you would be justified in including that post about the rape in San Fran, if then the pastor or rabbi or what ever of those kids Church came out and said it was the victims fault, until that happens it does not relate.

Just some observations from article



Witnesses are fellow Muslims?



Hearsay??? Made up???



Could S-2 be a fellow Muslim and Abdullah is just talking trash to him because S-2 is a member of the group?



Hearsay again maybe?

Now the strangest part



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Over a Period of Many Years- Violent Activity, Why the hell weren't they arrested sooner?

Seems like it took the FBI many years to get two witnesses to hear something and one witness to tape something.

Does this sound odd to anybody else?

Read again



I guess I have to repeat myself many times in this thread lol

Advice? My personal opinion is not an advice, my personal views are my personal views and is not universal which is always open to discussion. I'm once again not going to defend his personal views, he can say what ever he want it is up to him.

He is a Muslim with lots of followers, doesn't mean anything. His followers make the decision themselves, he is not forcing them to go around and rape people. He has his views, if people disagree they can go and refute his arguments, therefore reduce the number of his followers.

He is not a spokesperson for Islam, he is a spokesperson for the Arabian culture, Islam can defend itself through the Quran, the Quran doesn't condone rape, and condemns them to death in this life, and condemns them to hell in the next.

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No it was in relation to Dooper post, at least make the effort in reading who I have responded to. Read his post: