reply to post by HunkaHunka
No Hunka what you most often do is take any subject or topic to turn it into a platform for promoting a left/right divide.
Perhaps you are so intently focused on your politics to not notice how you do that.
Your initial response to this thread had nothing to do with Dobb's own plight as being the victim of a potential crime or negligence but to rather
instead comment on another posters desire to make everything about a left/right divide.
I lived in Los Angeles for a decade and I live in Miami where I have been well over a decade, believe me I am well aware of the reasons that compell
illegal immigrants to flee homelands lacking economic opportunities or rife with violence and absent adequate security.
Yet as a manager of a business Hunka, as an owner of a business unless this was all gained through nepotism, then you should be well aware of the need
for 'planned' growth as opposed to chaotic growth.
When your infrastructure is constantly being taxed of it's resources and capabilities with surging numbers of people who are not factored into the
equation in planning for that infrastructure you have an infrastructure problem.
Dobbs pragmatically recognizes government's primary obligation to secure the welfare, civil services, and security and employment opportunities for
actual legal citizens.
He realizes how a chaotic, un-regulated, poorly monitored constant influx of substantial numbers of illegal citizens makes it impossible for the
government to provide an infrastructure that functions to it's optimum as it should.
The reality is criminal gangs of illegal immigrants pushing narcotics do degrade security. The reality is illegal immigrants desperate for work and
willing to work for less do lower wages and at the same time deprive actual citizens of the opportunity to work in those positions. He recognizes that
both are violations of the law. He believes it's governments obligation to maintain and uphold the law and sees it falling short. He understands that
the unregulated, unplanned influx of these unlawful immigrants creates added health costs passed onto publcly funded health trusts, and further taxes
and crowds our school systems and floods them with people that slow down the pace in which the cirriculum can be taught as they struggle with the
language barrier and different standards from their own countries that don't always mean they are educated to an age appropriate level at the time
they enter our public school system.
He understands it is literally tearing the nation apart at it's seems from within and without.
If you actually know history Hunka this is exactly what happened that led to the destruction of the Roman Empire as so much pressure was put on it
externally not by people who wanted to conquer it but to be allowed to immigrate into it to enjoy it's higher standard of living and quality of life.
Charity is all fine and dandy Hunka and that's why we have ways for people to immigrate here in a planned manner, that allows the infrastructure to
be planned to deal with it.
Do you care about any of these things Hunka or simply how you can turn these issues into a left/right divide.
Dobbs is a brilliant man and an economist who simply recognizes failed and destructive thinking for what it is, no matter how well intentioned or
charitable those thoughts might be, if they are destructive and counter productive they are destructive and counter productive.
I was born in 1964 Hunka and I have watched every standard of life from the living wage, to personal freedoms, to education, to media, to law
enforcement degrade and errode steadily and progressively during that entire time.
What should we do Hunka ride it to the rock bottom ignoring our own principals and laws in favor of chaos for all instead of a quality of life for
those who respect the system and the laws?
Regardless you do have a tendency and propensity to sieze on almost every issue to promote left/right politics, to denounce the right, and defend the
left.
Whether it's the rape of a child, or immigration, or someone's home shot at, you end up highlighting those divisions and promoting those divisions
and you have done it on this thread and it's plain to see.
Look in the mirror friend, should you dare.
[edit on 30/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
