How To Stick It To The Man, page 1
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Topic started on 29-10-2009 @ 04:53 PM by LiveForever8
Hello all,

So, who is 'the man'?

Wikipedia is our friend:
'The Man'

But what if 'the man' turns out to be 'the men'?

Once again Wikipedia has the answers: TPTB

Now then, we know who 'they' are (thanks Wikipedia ) but how do we beat them?

Easy...

How To Stick It To The Man


Stick it to the man: 15 things you should never pay for

13 fun ways to screw up the system...legally


BeatTheSystem.com

Please join in with your ways of sticking it to the man

Remember 'man'......we know who you are!



Peace.

[edit on 05/08/2009 by LiveForever8]

[edit on 05/08/2009 by LiveForever8]


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 05:40 PM by Phlynx
Originally posted by LiveForever8
Hello all,

So, who is 'the man'?

Wikipedia is our friend:
'The Man'

But what if 'the man' turns out to be 'the men'?

Once again Wikipedia has the answers: TPTB

Now then, we know who 'they' are (thanks Wikipedia :up but how do we beat them?

Easy...

How To Stick It To The Man


Stick it to the man: 15 things you should never pay for

13 fun ways to screw up the system...legally


BeatTheSystem.com

Please join in with your ways of sticking it to the man

Remember 'man'......we know who you are!



Peace.

[edit on 05/08/2009 by LiveForever8]

The 13 ways where my favourite, because those are the easiest to do in an everyday situation.


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 07:50 PM by LiveForever8
reply to post by Acidtastic



Freeman On The Land

Never heard of this before, thanks

They seem to be an enemy of 'the man', which means they are a friend of mine.

Peace.



reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 07:07 AM by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Acidtastic



Careful with that Freeman stuff. It doesnt matter what's "legal" when they have all the guns, prisons and plenty of jack-booted thugs more than happy to stomp your head in.

Plus, anything remotely "sovereign" has been labeled extremist hate-groups by the US gov and various system supporting org's like the ADL and the SPLC.

People in the states are arrested regularly for this stuff. Don't be shocked when they kick in your door at 3AM to haul you off.


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 09:42 AM by daddio
Originally posted by Acidtastic
There are other ways of sticking it to the man.

Like becoming a Freeman On The Land. Big movements in the US and the UK. Basicly, if you don't agree with the laws, you can legally, and lawfully disobey them. (aslong as you stick to common law- do not cause harm or loss to person or property)

You can create your own society, just have enough people to agree with your laws, and you can be free from the system that entraps us all.

There's a fair bit of work involved in doing this, and IMO the movement has a little way to come before it's really workable for the big things. But there are already people who are not paying their taxes, ripping up their birth certificates and starting afresh. Legal and lawful dissent.

The law scociety (the society that you all belong to, do you remember joining it?) uses language to entrap you. They have their own language, using the same words as we use*, but with different meanings. They entise you into agreeing with the law, making you compelled to obide. BUT, if you do not agree to these laws, then why should you?

*eg- when a copper asks you "do you understand" what he is really saying is "do you stand under (these laws, which aren't actual laws, but mere "acts" of parliment)"

I truly hope that the Freeman On The Land movement gains weight. Becasue it is the way out.

[edit on 29/10/2009 by Acidtastic]


Yes, all law is based on technicality, your name is the first thing, ALL CAPITAL LETTERS makes you a "strawman" a fictious entity that is not really you but gives the governmnet control over ALL your possesions and your "person", and YOU are NOT a "person" according to the law, that is an "incorporated individual." You are a Natural Born Entity. A Sovereign.

abundanthope.net...



Everyone should read the link and unerstand it, it's the honest to God truth. I wish more people would be careful throwing terms around like U.S.citizens and U.S. instead of U.S.A., we all live in the U.S.A. not the U.S. Let's get it right.



reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:36 AM by Hack28
I really get a kick out of this thread, i think its funny to give very little pain in the asses to people. Dont think it will accomplish anything but its funny to waste a few cents fo other peoples money everyday, right?
As i have an Owner/CEO in my family i can tell you that the tricks they use for the CEO will vary largly from porson to person. The thing i want to caution people on is alot of the CEO's in related industries/areas/communities/countries/planets are in communicay and often are parts of organizations, no not the secret try to take over the world ones not all organizations are tyring to kill you, but social networking organizations. If your gonna tackle some Bulls just be aware that an occasional Bull will use his horns back, im not discouraging anyone but i dont want anyone to think this is a game. If you wanna try and mess with a persons life dont be suprised if they try and mess with yours right back.
Perfect example i know a person who felt he was f'ed by a rival company so he bought one stock, went to the shareholders meeting, and demanded to know where the fund for the recent CEO's family trips came from. He already knew the answer so when the CEO was attempting to dance around it he looked quite the fool. If you have information on a person there will always be an outlet to try and mess with them. Just use caution and understand its a big persons game and they play for keeps.
Business survival of the fittest, Industrial Darwinism if you will.


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 11:00 AM by Hemisphere
reply to post by LiveForever8



Love the thread LF8! I'm not as rebellious as some and so my "sticking it to" is more of just being "aware of the man" and using the information he provides against him.

For instance, if I buy something, something electronic for instance, I'll ask a techie salesperson what model/brand they recommend. I already know they have been trained to push certain items. Tech items if purchased from a big box store typically will be offered with the store's extended warranty. It's well known that these warranties are mostly wasted money. They don't make money on fixing or replacing your camera or flat screen two years down the road. (Consider too that the big box store might not exist when you want to collect on that extended warranty! Especially relative of late with chains going belly up.) All of this considered, the store and/or salesman will typically recommend a model/brand that has an excellent track record and typically does not get returned under warranty. But there's no harm in screwing with them and so I commonly will ask and this is typically within ear shot of other customers: "Why do you recommend a warranty? You expect this thing will break down? Are you trying to sell me crap? Why would you risk the store's reputation recommending an item you have no confidence in? Oh, so you do have confidence in this! The manufacturer's warranty is sufficient? Imagine that?" Yes, their mark up on the item also comes into play but every bit of information is useful in the market place.

I also have no shame when dealing with salespeople. If I don't like the price listed I'll tell them what I'll pay. If they refuse to blink I thank them and head for the door. It's a rarity but I have at times been told "wait I'll check with my boss". I do enjoy the chase and I find I'm far less needy of "things" as I get older. My wife and I love to go into high-end stores and screw with them. We check out, sample and otherwise experience their big ticket items and leave. "It's very nice but we were looking for something a little bigger! We will keep yours in mind though." We do that and most often come to the conclusion whatever it was we checked out was not worth the asking price. Nothing wrong with taking their freebees and having a little fun though.


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:48 PM by Alethea
This is a subject of interest to me. However, the ideas generated here will take a lot of effort, some money, and probably endless headaches to figure out. Not only that, but as an above poster mentioned, the very act of trying to disentangle yourself can cause worse persecution by those in authority.

My angle on this is to Stop Feeding the Beast.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

My idea is to find ways to streamline our necessities and to give as little money and power to these entities as possible. For many this will mean embracing a new lifestyle.

Finding yourself homeless by circumstances is scary. To preplan this as a choice or alternative life style, to know what you would do and how to handle the circumstances, is empowering.

I have started a thread on this aspect of freedom and hope that some of you all will contribute more ideas.

I think we have similar thoughts in wanting to attain a freedom and a detachment from these illusions that keep us in slavery. However, my angle is doing this without being caught up in more legalisms to get out of legalisms. And in being able to find a certain freedom that does not cause expenses of filing papers and spending days reading materials that suck your energy away leaving you depressed and frustrated.

My interest is for people to be able to blend in without being a part of it. Or to participate as little as possible.

I am looking for ideas for anything that helps to give us more freedom and quality of life, that helps us to be more self-sustaining, without buying in to what society dictates that we must have to be "normal" or "approved".


I think some of the ideas in the OP would call more attention to a person as a dissenter. My idea is to maintain an invisibility.
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