Bankers Vs. The People: Which Side Is The White House On?, page 1

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Topic started on 29-10-2009 @ 02:14 PM by jackflap

Well it seems to me that the whole mess is reaching a boiling point. I have included a video that is linked from the original article. It is only a minute and really sets the tone for the article.

"Showdown In Chicago": Thousands Of Protesters Gather At Bankers' Convention, Jesse Jackson, Labor Leaders Speak (VIDEO)

YouTube Link

As the battle lines are drawn between the people and the bankers outside the ABA convention in Chicago, the question arises: Which side is the White House on, exactly? One reason -- which has never been directly addressed by Obama -- may be that many of his chief financial advisers have pocketed extraordinary amount of money from banks and Wall Street, and presumably intend to do so again. They are part of the banker class, and their loyalties have been bought and paid for. Back in April, when the White House released financial disclosure forms late one Friday, those few people paying attention learned just how stupendously beholden Obama's top economic adviser, Larry Summers, is to the financial industry that he is ostensibly trying to rein in. Summers was paid $5.2 million for his part-time work for a massive hedge fund in 2008. He also took in more than $2.7 million in fees for speaking engagements at such places as Citigroup, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs -- including one visit alone that netted him $135,000 from Goldman Sachs. That's right: $135,000 for one visit on one day. You can't pocket that kind of money and not be, on some level, corrupted.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Corrupted? I might be inclined to believe that.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 02:34 PM by fraterormus

Well, I won't postulate which side the W.H. or Congress is on, but I will state the obvious:

A Representational Government should be on every side, from the majority to the smallest minority, and at the same time take no sides.

That paradoxical conundrum is what faces each of our duly elected government officials in our Representational Democracy/Democratic Republic.

The W.H. and Congress *SHOULD* be representing all sides in the matter, and taking none of them, but balancing their decisions removed from concerns of any side, to make a fair and judicious decision for the betterment of all.

The only question should be are the officials the majority elected into office capable of doing just that.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 02:57 PM by truskeptic

Our government is owned and operated by the banks and the stock market. You as a citizen of the US cannot and never will own anything, and without ownership you will never have any say so in running of this country, plain and simple. If you don't pay for the license plates or pay property tax you cannot remain the owner, that is the way it is setup..........ENJOY! Think of a house in this manner, after it is paid for all you have done is to lower your rent for a few of years.

Tru

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:03 PM by Frogs

Hmmm... answering this post brings to bear an interesting point. That being how to expand your answer to meet posting rules when a one word answer is really all that is required to convey your thoughts..

That being said, I view that the answer to question can most clearly be stated simply. The evidence thus far points to...

Bankers

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:08 PM by jimmyx

which side are the republicans on?...the banks of course...always have been, always will be. which side are the republicans on, insurance companies or people that don't have and can't afford healthcare? the insurance companies, of course.

funny i don't see see those type of posts coming from the conservatives, i wonder why???

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:10 PM by ADVISOR

The bankers bought the US government back when they convinced a ceertain president to trade our monatary system from a gold and silver backed form to a credit/debt backed one.

They enslaved not only the USofA but also other nations into the corrupt form of control.

I understand that this may be new to many. SO a suggest a search through ATS archives of old threads to see the vast quanities of detailed information we have compiled on the topic.

The White House, is manipulated through the same people who have been in positions of influence and power. Don't blame any one single president for their actions. It is the proxy whom they are "handled" through.

Presidents come and go, but the ones who stay in power are the ones who are behind the scenes.

As for the White House staff, I would say it is about as divided as we the people are.

Interesting topic, and I encourage continued discussion.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:11 PM by Copernicus

Friday’s financial disclosures further expose the bankruptcy of American democracy. Elections have no real effect on government policy, which is determined by the interests of the financial aristocracy that dominates both political parties. The working class can fight for its own interests—for jobs, decent living standards, health care, education, housing and an end to war—only through a break with the two parties of American capitalism and the development of a mass, independent socialist movement.

Obamas Wall Street Cabinet

Its pretty obvious why the mass media in the United States is making people afraid of socialism (mostly by lying and playing on peoples fear of communism). And its working.

[edit on 29-10-2009 by Copernicus]

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:14 PM by Frogs

reply to post by ADVISOR

Exactly - I'm not really seeing this as a left v. right thing or a democrat vs. repulican thing to be honest.

For the reasons you pointed out, the white house will be on the banker's side no matter which party has its rear planted in that big chair in the oval office. They basically have to be the way things are set up.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:16 PM by YouAreDreaming

I think it is pretty obvious? How many of you recieved your bail outs?

Nuff said.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:20 PM by jimmyx

Originally posted by Frogs
Hmmm... answering this post brings to bear an interesting point. That being how to expand your answer to meet posting rules when a one word answer is really all that is required to convey your thoughts..

That being said, I view that the answer to question can most clearly be stated simply. The evidence thus far points to...

Bankers

oh, i suppose bush restricted the ceo's pay of the banks in 08'?..wrong
oh, i supoose bush worked on stricter regulations on banks in 08'.?..wrong

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:28 PM by Frogs

Originally posted by jimmyx

oh, i suppose bush restricted the ceo's pay of the banks in 08'?..wrong
oh, i supoose bush worked on stricter regulations on banks in 08'.?..wrong

Did you even read my reply to Advisor's post?

I'm saying the way things are set up it really doesn't matter which party is in the White House. The way the system is set up it will always push them toward being more helpful the bankers than "the people" regardless of which party is sitting in the White House.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:32 PM by truskeptic

reply to post by jimmyx

You might want think a deeper before saying that, the Democrats and the Republicans have the same master.....”BANKS”. That is why you as a citizen does not have anyone helping you by representing you as citizen of the US. The Democrats want to keep you in debt as well as the Republicans as they all work for the “Elite” that own the banks. Not fair is it! That my friend is why we got out of England in the beginning. Forget what you have been taught in school, they were just feeding the information that they are authorized to use.

Tru

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 04:58 PM by jackflap

reply to post by jimmyx

Why is it that everyone still equates what this administration is doing to what the Bush administration has done in the past? That dog has already been beaten to death. I think this administration should look back at their campaign promises of change and issue a public apology.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 05:53 PM by conspiracyrus

Jimmyx might want to recheck Max Balkus' (purposefully misspelled) He took money from insurance companies too... repubs dems ... theyre both ridiculous

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 06:12 PM by MrAndy

Obama appeared to be on our side during the election (or at least he led us to believe so) but now it seems he is in the pocket of big business. He is throwing money everywhere except to the people who need it.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 06:22 PM by AlienChaser

reply to post by truskeptic

You might want think a deeper before saying that, the Democrats and the Republicans have the same master.....”BANKS”.

Finally.....

It is simply mind boggling how deeply entrenched partisanship is and I find myself running into it EVERYWHERE!

Without fail Obama voters will ask where we were when Bush was in office? Why didn't you critisize the Bush white house?

These are easy questions. I was EXACTLY in the same position I am today. I openly critisized Bush and I have been in LOUD and CONSTANT opposition to what our government has been and is exponentially becoming. So lets just settle the partisan crap RIGHT NOW!!!!

Well... I feel better.

The subject here is not a party issue the question was if the White House itself was for or against the elite, the Banksters -(for those who like you can think of the White House in terms of whichever year you like all the way back to 1913) - It is very clear to me that the White House is not even in a position to choose sides. It is already completely controled by banks, special interests, and lobbiests!

Our problems are very much deeper than the bothersome chore of deciding which side of the Republicrat toilet bowl to swim in.
This is all part of the PLAN people!!!

As long as the Banks control the White House as well as the Congress and Senate, they WILL be pulling the strings of the people in those seats! No matter what party they claim.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 07:37 PM by truskeptic

The first thing they want you to do is to pick a party whether a Democrat or a Republican, right off the bat they just divided the country in half. Then you pick a party thinking that you have others that thinks somewhat like you do and now we get this false secure feeling that you are not alone in your thinking and what we want and need. Now this elected person is going to at least some of our bidding on what we need in this country..........”Bull Scrap”. Within a term (or less), they we take a that $50,000 office job we elected them for and before they get out of office they will become millionaires once again at our expense. And we still didn't get anything done for average US citizen, but the banks made more money once again. And they have “Free Health care” for the rest of their lives.

And what makes it even worst, I have never been able to pick a damn candidate, they seem to magically appear on TV by them selves. At this point I really don't think that anyone in office could be trusted by looking at the past decades of performance.

Tru

reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:59 AM by jackflap

reply to post by truskeptic

So its all been a lie. The whole mess. I am done trying to figure it all out. All I can say for sure is that whoever is pulling the strings will end up just fine. We'll be left to fend for ourselves. Pity.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"

James Madison - 4th President of the United States...

reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 12:05 PM by truskeptic

reply to post by jackflap

Left or right they have the same ”Master” when you come to realize that at first you might feel some despair, but don't give in, to be honest at least you know the enemy and what they are doing to this country and it's people. The more that you know the less power that they have, it is simple math. The worst thing we can do as a people is nothing, “Evil and Power” has never been self correcting and it does not go away without fighting back.

It is so easy to fight back without any bloodshed, so simple:

First: Turn off the news on the TV. Nothing but lies anyway, check what you read very carefully. Never watch anyone that has a agenda, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, CCN, Nancy Grace, etc, they all have a agenda...........period.

Second: Don't feed the beast by buying all the scrap they are trying to sell you. Do you really need a new car that has more cup holders, or a “Super Duper” HD TV that shows you and tries to sell you more stuff your don't need in High Depth.

Third: Take care of your health without going to the doctor for every little problem. A doctor can't heal you or make you well, they can only cover symptoms with a drug of one kind or another. Look at a doctor as a salesman for big Pharma, I not saying that they are bad, but I would they have lost their way like many others in this country.

There you have it, so simple. You are not going to listen, and you are not going to support them, you will win. Because without the power giving you fear or trying make you buy, they have no power. Once again it is math, there are more of us than them...........

The great part is that now you will be “under the Radar” and if the 'SHTF”, no one will notice you!

Congress is not on your side, or mine either, it is time to get real in this country because we are being destroyed from the inside out.

Tru

reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 12:55 PM by Anti-Evil

well, Obama is on Rockefellers side and Rockefeller acording to his own words has been working on destroying America... read his book..
here since his book isnt worth reading unless your a delusional Tyrant.

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or family of ....
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or cabal of ....
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