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Topic started on 29-10-2009 @ 08:30 AM by Craplegend

Radiation Tax proposed to protect DNA ?


www.indymedia.org.uk
the UK will consider a carbon tax to increase the price of electricity and make nuclear more cost effective.

Radiation Free Lakeland object to this outrageous and unjust tax favouring the very industry that first blew a hole in the ozone layer. A carbon tax amounts to higher tax bills to pay for nuclear which is at the top of the industrial polluters food chain. Last year Sellafield ( no longer producing electricity) quadrupled it emissions of HFC's
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 08:50 AM by C0bzz
My understanding with geothermal is that it is not suitable for all areas, and also cannot generate large amounts of electricity like Nuclear / Coal can. Most forms of electricity generation that take energy from the environment, like solar and wind, have low power densities which means a large, open, space is required, and then they also have the limitation of being intermittent because the sun doesn't always shine and the wind doesn't always blow.

For example, to get the power of one nuclear power plant, a few hundred square miles of wind turbines would be required, that is, of course, for something that cannot even provide power all the time, and also due to engineering reasons, is limited to a maximum of 20% of total power generation because it has difficulty integrating with the grid. That's where Nuclear comes in because it is extremely reliable at providing a base load - like coal - and that's where renewables simply cannot compete because. simply put, they cannot provide reliable power, nor can they generate lots of it.

It's also how some renewable proponents suggest Nuclear energy is super expensive and requires subsidies, then turn around and suggest that we blow billions of dollars on their own pet project renewable power that is usually far more expensive on a per megawatt hour basis. Also renewables would also benefit from the carbon tax just as much as Nuclear would.

In one state of Australia alone, we have 4000 megawatts of coal power plants being proposed. That's around the equivalent of 12,000 of the largest wind turbines, which would require 264,000 acres of land or over a thousand square kilometers of non-stop wind turbines, for something that cannot even produce power the whole time. It's a joke stating that renewables can replace these coal plants. The only thing that can is Nuclear or gas. Also, the proposed plants are under the category, "BASE LOAD POWER GENERATION", something that most renewable cannot do anyway.

I was having a rather amusing discussion (in real life) about the energy crisis. It was rather amusing. I stated that renewables are useless since they cannot replace coal. They suggested energy storage. My reply - "and how much does that cost?" Their reply... "cost doesn't matter". Among other statements they made were, renewables supply 75% of Europes power (WRONG), Australia is the worst country per capita CO2 (WRONG), and also apparently nuclear control rods make more energy than nuclear creates (WRONG). Absolute joke - these same people failed high school physcs. Honestly most of these people have no bearing on reality and are in their little dreamland.

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 09:12 AM by Craplegend
Zeitgeist: Addendum
video.google.com...#

Claims that
"an MIT report on geothermal energy fount that 13,000ZJ of power are currently available in the earth. with the possibility of 2,000ZJ being easily tapable with improved technology, The earth only uses 0.5ZJ per year" The earths heat is constantly renewed so technically this energy is "limetless"

-Crap


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:17 AM by C0bzz
Both the University of Sydney, and the Institute for Energy Research, rank Geothermal as being more expensive than Nuclear.

aua.org.au...

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org...


On safety please go to my posts on this thread, and also this link.

And also please remember it is physically impossible for future reactors (2020 - 2030 implementation) to melt down. Basically, neutrons have to be slowed down to hit an atom, this is done through moderation. At high temperatures most substances do not moderate very well. So as the reactor gets hotter the reaction shuts down. This was validated in the Molten-Salt Reactor Experiment.

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